[GNUz] [Fwd: Re: [NZOSS-OpenChat] Nokia donates profit to gnome]

Richard Tindall gnuz@inode.co.nz
Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:09:28 +1200


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Thanks for this less-public list, on which to vent FOSS concerns, Jim.

I should note that there is good progress on the NZOSS list towards a 
patent litigation test case, and wish them luck.

The last thing I would wish to see happen is any damage to the (F)OSS 
commercial market. My point is to strengthen it, by developing a larger 
user community base.

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- Rik


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Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:33:58 +1200
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Peter Harrison wrote:

>I think that in many respects it is impossible to please the "OSS
>community". If you do something expecting good press, and get flamed
>instead, you will think twice about doing anything else positive.
>  
>
I think it's a matter of recognising that there are two compatible 
communities - OSS and Free Software - and developing a strategy that 
satisfies both: the common ground. Then we leave the differences outside 
of what we can agree to do together, which should be a lot. Promotion of 
"Linux", Firefox, et.al., seems the winner, and leave the question of 
adding 'BSD', 'GNU', or whatever to each individual public interface 
situation. Nothing is compulsory.

>I think the Nokia move is positive. However, that doesn't mean we let up
>on patents. 
>
>Every company has its own interests, and sometimes those interests will
>diverge from that of the OSS community. It doesn't mean that the company
>"doesn't get it". In other companies a change in culture is required to
>really make big changes.
>
>Even our friends such as IBM, Sun, HP, and Oracle who have supported
>various open source projects each have their own agenda. That doesn't
>mean we can't work with them to further our own.
>  
>

Bickering over details isn't the point. We just need to get out there, 
be positive, and be free to talk about _all_ of (f)OSS.

Thanks for all the work you do Peter.

hth, Cheers, Rik

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