[DISIG-cabal] Fwd: [codecraft-dunedin] Issues with Meetup and Matt Kraemer

[Jim Cheetham]

Odd goings on in Dunedin ... presented without comment, but you've probably already seen this ...

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From: Tim Penhey <tim at penhey.net>
To: matt at kraemer.co.nz, codecraft-dunedin at googlegroups.com
Cc: matt at coderight.nz
Subject: [codecraft-dunedin] Issues with Meetup and Matt Kraemer
Date: Tuesday, 25 August 2020 9:37 PM

Hi everyone,

Back at the end of last year George Sealy had organised to get his company Blue Jeans to sponsor Code Craft. This sponsorship was paying the membership dues for meetup.

I felt uncomfortable about asking George to just trust me with some credit card details to enter, and meetup aint great about having someone other than the primary organiser pay the dues. I tried to pass the ownership to George, but before he accepted it, my time as organiser lapsed and that led to the email dump that went out to the group saying I had stepped down. Some of you reached out at the time asking about it, and I responded that we were trying to pass ownership over (https://groups.google.com/g/codecraft-dunedin/c/Jsr-czsQmAM).

Unfortunately, as it turns out, due to meetup's wonderful rules, I was removed as organiser (because of lack of payment) before George was able to take ownership and set up the new payment. However since the emails stopped, I thought nothing of it.

Fast forward to recently, Rachel and I noticed that the head organiser of the code craft meetup group was now Matt Kraemer, and he had updated the notes to say that his company was sponsoring code craft. We reached out asking to have the ownership transferred, but he declined, and what's more, after that engagement he removed all other co-organisers, Thomi, Chris, Bob, George, and others, from the meetup.

No one apart from Matt can now organise a meetup. No one can start a discussion with the group. There are only 190 odd folk on the google group, and over 570 on the meetup. Most of those people aren't going to see this message.

I'm asking for Matt to pass ownership over to George Sealy as was initially intended. If this doesn't happen, we'll be looking for some different organisation tool.

I think it is also worthwhile taking this time to think about what we want out of code craft as a group. What sort of talks are most interesting? What really engages people?

As a side note, we have been asked not to use the Polytech rooms while we are at alert level 2 with covid. Although there is currently no way for us to create any event for September anyway.

Tim


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