[chbot] Chchrobotics Digest, Vol 131, Issue 13

Chris Sharkman chris.sharkman at gmail.com
Fri Aug 10 22:31:30 BST 2018


I would use a small amount of silicon sealant to hold the led strips stronger than tape. And easy to remove 
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>   1. Re: Tape for securing LED strip (Henri Shustak)
>   2. Re: Tape for securing LED strip (Trevor Wignall)
>   3. Re: Tape for securing LED strip (Volker Kuhlmann)
>   4. Re: Tape for securing LED strip (Trevor Wignall)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:49:32 +0900
>From: Henri Shustak < henri.shustak at gmail.com>
>To: Christchurch Robotics < chchrobotics at lists.ourshack.com>
>Subject: Re: [chbot] Tape for securing LED strip
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>3M offer a very expensive red tape which will offer some thermal transfer. 
>
>If you wanted to try some as a test. I could bring some along to a meeting for you to give it whirl before placing out on an entire roll.
>
>It is available from MJ Shardlows (Saxon St), CHCH.
>
>Very sticky.
>
>
>http://www.htrax.xyz
>
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> On 6/08/2018, at 3:51 AM, Charles Manning < cdhmanning at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you need thermal transfer as well, then the stuff they sell at Jaycar is very sticky.
>
> https://www.jaycar.co.nz/thermal-transfer-tape-100x100x0-5mm-pk-2/p/NM2790
>
> Not up there with the 3M tape, but better than $2 shop double sided tape.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 10:32 PM, Brett Davidson < brett at davidson.gen.nz> wrote:
> The only thing that worked on laminate (wife wanted led strip around the
> edge of the kitchen panelling) was roofing silicone and even then, around
> corners, a few pin nails were needed to hold that in place while it set.
>
> Cheers,
> Brat.
>
> On 5/08/18, 1:27 PM, "Chchrobotics on behalf of Andrew Sands"
>< chchrobotics-bounces at lists.ourshack.com on behalf of
> andrew at theatrix.org.nz> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> Query as on tin, looking for better double sided tape to secure LED strip
>> to various surfaces (e.g. aluminium, painted timber).
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 20:03:14 +1200
>From: Trevor Wignall < zl3adz at gmail.com>
>To: Christchurch Robotics < chchrobotics at lists.ourshack.com>
>Subject: Re: [chbot] Tape for securing LED strip
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>I don't know how much more effective the thermal transfer tape would be
>compared to the normal tapes if the LEDs are being mounted on an MDF or
>particle board surface, which is not particularly thermally conductive. I
>suppose the thermal tape would help to conduct the heat sideways as well as
>into the supporting surface.
>Trevor
>
>On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Henri Shustak < henri.shustak at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> 3M offer a very expensive red tape which will offer some thermal transfer.
>
> If you wanted to try some as a test. I could bring some along to a meeting
> for you to give it whirl before placing out on an entire roll.
>
> It is available from MJ Shardlows (Saxon St), CHCH.
>
> Very sticky.
>
>
> http://www.htrax.xyz
>
>
>> On 6/08/2018, at 3:51 AM, Charles Manning < cdhmanning at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you need thermal transfer as well, then the stuff they sell at Jaycar
> is very sticky.
>>
>> https://www.jaycar.co.nz/thermal-transfer-tape-
> 100x100x0-5mm-pk-2/p/NM2790
>>
>> Not up there with the 3M tape, but better than $2 shop double sided tape.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 10:32 PM, Brett Davidson < brett at davidson.gen.nz>
> wrote:
>> The only thing that worked on laminate (wife wanted led strip around the
>> edge of the kitchen panelling) was roofing silicone and even then, around
>> corners, a few pin nails were needed to hold that in place while it set.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brat.
>>
>> On 5/08/18, 1:27 PM, "Chchrobotics on behalf of Andrew Sands"
>>< chchrobotics-bounces at lists.ourshack.com on behalf of
>> andrew at theatrix.org.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Query as on tin, looking for better double sided tape to secure LED
> strip
>>> to various surfaces (e.g. aluminium, painted timber).
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
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>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:37:34 +1200
>From: Volker Kuhlmann < list0570 at paradise.net.nz>
>To: Christchurch Robotics < chchrobotics at lists.ourshack.com>
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>On Fri 10 Aug 2018 20:03:14 NZST +1200, Trevor Wignall wrote:
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> suppose the thermal tape would help to conduct the heat sideways as well as
> into the supporting surface.
>
>That won't really do you any good if you spread the heat sideways along
>flimsy plastic foil. Mounting on MDF conducts very little heat away,
>wood is a pretty good thermal insulator. There is significant thermal
>loss along the foil-PCB tracks as well. I still say, run the strips at
>the fraction of the rated power and buy twice as many metres. They're
>cheap. It hugley increases light output efficiency, and gives a better
>light colour/spectrum too.
>
>Volker
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:55:35 +1200
>From: Trevor Wignall < zl3adz at gmail.com>
>To: Christchurch Robotics < chchrobotics at lists.ourshack.com>
>Subject: Re: [chbot] Tape for securing LED strip
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>Moving the heat sideways (or along the line of the lights) allows the heat
>to be radiated or convected away from a larger area and helps keep the LEDs
>themselves cooler. As the degradation of the LEDs is likely to follow an
>exponential relationship with temperature, anything that keeps them cooler
>is good.
>I do agree that running the LEDs at a lower current gives many benefits.
>Trevor
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Volker Kuhlmann < list0570 at paradise.net.nz>
>wrote:
>
> On Fri 10 Aug 2018 20:03:14 NZST +1200, Trevor Wignall wrote:
>
>> suppose the thermal tape would help to conduct the heat sideways as well
> as
>> into the supporting surface.
>
> That won't really do you any good if you spread the heat sideways along
> flimsy plastic foil. Mounting on MDF conducts very little heat away,
> wood is a pretty good thermal insulator. There is significant thermal
> loss along the foil-PCB tracks as well. I still say, run the strips at
> the fraction of the rated power and buy twice as many metres. They're
> cheap. It hugley increases light output efficiency, and gives a better
> light colour/spectrum too.
>
> Volker
>
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