[chbot] Is "Stacker" game of skill, of chance, or is it rigged?

[Spencer Travers]

I remember a good video on this machine. Look at 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofEb9fM8m0Q

Spencer



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Paul Davey <plmdvy at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Manual explicitly names it a game of skill and under the sections for
> skill settings explicitly notes that as it is a skill game the winning
> ratios are approximate not fixed.
>
> Asserting that because they gave approximations it must be rigged is
> flawed because such approximations can be derived by considering a
> statistical model of the player and analyzing the game.
>
> I would say that the game is a game of skill but is still basically a
> psychological trap and a game which has an exponential skill requirement
> curve.
>
> Unless anyone wants to get a cabinet and do reverse engineering to prove
> otherwise I would say that the game is one of skill, but designed in such a
> way that it is unlikely that you would win the big prizes.
>
> Also to Mike's comment about an automatic player, such a device would be
> rather conspicuous and if they found you using it would likely result in
> being banned from the game, in addition if all of the major prizes
> disappeared in one go or even very quickly they would likely just move or
> retire the cabinet since it would no longer be profitable.  Not to mention
> that if you were caught on camera doing this it would likely still result
> in at least banning from the store.
>
> Not to mention that any such device would likely still have a chance of
> failure on higher settings due to delays and need to use prediction.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Mark Atherton <markaren1 at xtra.co.nz>wrote:
>
>> any chance the limit be moved to 100k, I have had some stuff lost like
>> this
>>
>> -mark
>>
>>
>> At 01:47 p.m. 4/06/2013, you wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone following the headers on this topic may wonder where Michaels
>>> email had been sitting for a couple of days!
>>> It fell foul of Mailmans 40k posting limit and so got parked for an
>>> admin type to approve. So the message waited until I was within internet
>>> range and I located my round to_it.
>>>
>>> Apologies for the delay
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Spencer Travers <<mailto:
>>> spencer.travers@**gmail.com <spencer.travers at gmail.com>>spencer.travers@
>>> **gmail.com <spencer.travers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> The Stacker manual is here:
>>> <http://web.archive.org/web/**20060509142318/http://www.**
>>> shafferdistributing.com/**manuals/lai_Stacker_SKILL_1st-**Ed_manual.pdf<http://web.archive.org/web/20060509142318/http://www.shafferdistributing.com/manuals/lai_Stacker_SKILL_1st-Ed_manual.pdf>
>>> >http://web.**archive.org/web/**20060509142318/http://www.**
>>> shafferdistributing.com/**manuals/lai_Stacker_SKILL_1st-**Ed_manual.pdf<http://web.archive.org/web/20060509142318/http://www.shafferdistributing.com/manuals/lai_Stacker_SKILL_1st-Ed_manual.pdf>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 'skill setting' determines the approximate win ratio. How can this
>>> ratio be relied on if the machine is not rigged?
>>>
>>> Spencer
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