[mythtvnz] PCI 9400 GT Sparkle Fanless PCI Commentary
Mike Russell
mikerussellnz at gmail.com
Sat May 23 22:58:13 BST 2009
Hey,
I have been looking for a PCI card for VDPAU but haven't been able to find
any, do you know anyone who sell's these in NZ?
Thanks
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tortise <tortise at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Hi
>
> The idea of re-cycling old AGP PC kit with a capable recent 9 series video
> card is appealing price wise and also from a lowered
> planetary re-cycling cost. As with VDPAU the CPU requirement is generally
> vastly reduced. Power consumption and box volume may be a
> negative though, compared to new Ion based offerings on the horizon, all be
> it with unknown delivery dates and then also known
> software stabilisation for how long or at all?!! If this is for you, read
> on and have it (a little?) easier!
>
> Trying this card in a Gigabyte 866Mhz Intel III GA-6VM7A+ the video card
> failed to boot despite various BIOS changes including
> assigning Video boot to VGA. Known working system otherwise. This has not
> been exhaustively worked up with BIOS default setting,
> checking power wattage (which might not have been up to the said 300W or
> so...required) however it did not look promising. Might
> have another go another day....
>
> Trying this card in a Gigabyte GA 7VRXP Rev 1.1 with AMD 2400, old clunky
> 18G IBM HDD, 3G RAM
> > Mythbuntu 8.10 and 9.04 would not install NVIDIA drivers and would only
> start in low graphics mode.
> > Problem traced to too much RAM (!) Ref:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/342926 Kernels
> > 2.6.30 or 2.6.31 or later are said to fix the issue of addressing RAM
> above 2G (in the case of using a NVIDIA PCI card)
> > Possible issues of driver interference with messages suggesting presence
> of 180.44.and 180.51 versions arising from the 3G RAM
> > install issues (presumably)
>
> > Reduce to 2G RAM (3G problem confirmed following apparently successful
> run up - problem re-produced with reinstallation of the 3rd
> > G of RAM)
> > Re-install seemed necessary despite reduction of RAM, default NVIDIA
> driver is then 150.44
> > Font issues noted, also rectangles on desktop, instability, crash hangs.
>
> > 9400 GT's only stated by NVIDIA as supported since 180.51 Hmmm Need
> upgrade 180.44 to 180.5x
> > Easy way finally found by adding keys to Synaptic reference which allows
> easy and automated upgrade to the 180.53 beta drivers -
> > upgrade nvidia-glx-180
> add those two lines to the repo portion of synaptic
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main
> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty
> main
> > Figuring out xorg.conf issues simply not detailed here!
> > Font issues persist. (Did I buy a lemon?)
> > Also need to upgrade nvidia-180-modaliases which the above did not
> capture
> > Fonts mostly fixed.
>
> > Add in VDPAU using JYA's stuff. Can't test(?) without a compatible DVB-T
> source...... to do....
>
> > Stability still a problem with frequent hangs but may be related to
> remaining bugs to fix in the young NVIDIA drivers (given only
> > ~2-3 driver iterations so far for the 9400 GT)
> > Upgrading the 9.04 kernal of uname -r 2.6.28-11-generic to uname -r
> 2.6.29-02062903-generic has made a significant advance with
> > fonts largely rendering correctly and minimal further hangs.
> Ref http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1108281 which worked for 9.04
> although written for 8.10.
>
> Maybe power supply issues contributing with readings like:
> sensors
> it87-isa-0290
> Adapter: ISA adapter
> VCore 1: +1.70 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.08 V)
> VCore 2: +1.25 V (min = +1.28 V, max = +1.68 V) ALARM
> +3.3V: +3.30 V (min = +2.78 V, max = +3.78 V)
> +5V: +4.95 V (min = +4.49 V, max = +5.48 V)
> +12V: +12.22 V (min = +9.86 V, max = +13.95 V)
> -12V: -6.87 V (min = -22.94 V, max = -17.05 V) ALARM
> -5V: -2.97 V (min = -9.14 V, max = -7.75 V) ALARM
> Stdby: +5.11 V (min = +4.49 V, max = +5.48 V)
> VBat: +0.00 V
> fan1: 0 RPM (min = 703 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
> fan2: 0 RPM (min = 703 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
> fan3: 0 RPM (min = 2812 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
> M/B Temp: +42.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor =
> thermistor
> CPU Temp: +40.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor =
> thermistor
> Temp3: +81.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor =
> thermal diode
>
> with -12V wide ranging from -6 to -16! Take out the tuner card that was
> there! maybe needs new PSU? Current PSU is relatively new
> 430W which should be ok? Keep an eye on.
>
> MythTV
> >> Mythbuntu plays with stop start video/sound. (Why! ?CPU) (See following
> - need to configure ffmpeg for SD I think...)
> >> Not sure if VDPAU is working properly, especially as I am only playing
> DVB-S thru mythtv.
>
> But need to configure the profiles to use vdpau.... Instructions not
> really clear to me whether one adds the two specified settings
> (Ref: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Display_Profiles) to an existing
> profiles of Normal, High Quality, Slim, CPU+, CPU++ or CPU--
> (Ref: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles ) What I did was add a
> whole new profile called vdpau, and added the two sub
> profiles. Uncheck fade out (which I hate - why would I ever want to wait
> for fade out to complete?) and then add in the
> de-interlacers (Ref http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Deinterlacing ) which I
> gather much experimentation with will be required. Also made
> vdpau come in with definitions >H0 and W0, else standard which is the
> ffmpeg one otherwise, as I am using DVB-S its probably just
> using ffmpeg, but how would I know? Image crashes after a few seconds....
> OK change thresholds to H1000 and W700 which should turn
> off vdpau in SD, and what do you know crashes stop.... Mmmm. Reset to
> H400 W400 and crashes return. Suggests vdpau crashing on
> DVB-S signals but ffmpeg ok. Back to H1000 and W 700. Maybe this should
> be >C4 SD of 720x400 so only 720p and 1080i gets vdpau?
> (When I need to how does one make this distinguish non H264 SD channels
> from H264 SD channels e.g. C4, TV3+1?)
> CPU runs ~55% on these now.
>
> VLC
> > VLC: C4 and TV3+1(=SD Definition) on VLC plays ~ 60-100% CPU, as fed from
> a DVB-T HDHomerun. More CPU or VDPAU is needed to meet
> > the Queens (high) standards.
> > VLC: TV1 DVB-T plays CPU >= 90% quite unsatisfactorily. NVIDIA Temp ~75
> degrees playing these. (Slowdown threshold 105 degrees)
> > Probably will only be fixed when VLC gets VDPAU support or when
> alternative DVB-T source is integrated into BE and plays thru
> > vdpau mythtv.
>
>
> Still TO DO:
> >> When changing the OSD configuration I note the keyboard does not work
> changing channels etc. Killing the FE process and
> >> restarting the FE consistently sometimes persuades the keyboard to work
> again. Happened repeatedly, likely a bug. Actually
> >> seems to happen more than just following OSD changes. Hmmm. Makes it
> hard to do the repeated channel change test!
>
> >> Figure out why remote not working....
>
> >> Fix the hiss playing out one channel. (Odd) The kit (same except 2M
> RAM instead of 3 and substitute 5200 for 9400GT) previously
> >> worked fine with mythbuntu 8.10 / SD.
> I note some repeated comments about buffer overruns in the logs that may be
> associated, not sure.
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:46.084 AFD: Opened codec 0xb064f50, id(MP3)
> type(Audio)
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:46.189 Opening audio device 'default'. ch 2(2) sr
> 48000
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:46.189 Opening ALSA audio device 'default'.
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:46.198 NVP: Enabling Audio
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:49.842 WriteAudio: buffer underrun
> a.. .....repeats.....
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:44:52.161 NVP: prebuffering pause
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:45:05.876 VDPAU Error: DISPLAY PRE-EMPTED. Aborting
> playback.
> a.. 2009-05-23 20:45:05.877 NVP: Error condition detected in videoOutput
> after Show(), aborting playback.
>
> But "Extra Audio Buffering" is selected in "General Playback (1/9)"
> settings.
>
> Any comments or ideas welcomed!
>
>
> Hope this helps others scratch the surface of mythbuntu 9.04!
>
> David
>
>
>
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