[mythtvnz] 10. Re: apology Re: New To List Ashley Kirk

[Ashley Kirk]

Sorry I didnt mean to cause such a fuss!
I agree that it was a pretty soft sell though :)
Looks like you do a lot for the community - thanks Steve!

Ash

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>    1. Re: New To List (Criggie)
>    2. apology Re:  New To List (Criggie)
>    3. Re: apology Re: New To List (Steve Hodge)
>    4. Re: apology Re: New To List (Hadley Rich)
>    5. Re: apology Re: New To List (Steven Ellis)
>    6. Re: apology Re:  New To List (Robert Fisher)
>    7. Re: apology Re: New To List (Nick Rout)
>    8. Re: apology Re:  New To List (Corrin Lakeland)
>    9. Re: apology Re: New To List (Nick Rout)
>   10. Re: apology Re: New To List (Nick Rout)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:32:38 +1300 (NZDT)
> From: "Criggie" <criggie at criggie.dyndns.org>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Cc: nick at rout.co.nz
> Message-ID: <42654.10.28.1.2.1196465558.squirrel at criggie.dyndns.org>
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>
> Steven Ellis wrote:
> > Ashley Kirk wrote:
> >> This is my introduction email!
> >>...
> >> Hence I have joined the list as I havent learned too much yet and
> >> might need some help and definitely need to do some more research
>
> > Or you could get him to buy a working unit from OpenMedia ;)
> > Steve
> > --
> > Steven Ellis - Technical Director
> > OpenMedia Limited
> > email   - steven at openmedia.co.nz
> > sales   - sales at openmedia.co.nz
> > support - support at openmedia.co.nz
> > website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz
>
>
> Steve - this is an off list comment mostly because I don't want to
> embarrass you.
>
> Please consider the commercial nature of some of your statements, like the
> one above.  A smiley face doesn't change what it is.
>
> To be honest - I don't know what the list maintainer's position is on
> commercially-biased postings.  It would be a good idea for you to discuss
> it directly with Nick.
>
> Notice no other commercial operator on the list makes any sort of
> reference to their sales functions?
>
> --
> Criggie
>
> http://criggie.dyndns.org/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:39:29 +1300 (NZDT)
> From: "Criggie" <criggie at criggie.dyndns.org>
> Subject: [mythtvnz] apology Re:  New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID: <44179.10.28.1.2.1196465969.squirrel at criggie.dyndns.org>
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> Criggie wrote:
> > Steve - this is an off list comment mostly because I don't want to
>
> I'd like to apologise to you Steve, for my misdirected email.  I really
> didn't mean to post that to the mailing list.
>
> However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> postings with any commercial content?
>
>
> --
> Criggie
>
> http://criggie.dyndns.org/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:49:54 +1300
> From: "Steve Hodge" <stevehodge at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID:
> <24b589d90711301549u58697ef1h1e91227a4ed2edc6 at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Dec 1, 2007 12:39 PM, Criggie <criggie at criggie.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> > However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> > postings with any commercial content?
> >
>
> I wasn't bothered by Steve's post and feel inclined to cut him a little
> slack anyway due to the contributions he's made back to Myth. So long as
it
> doesn't get out of hand.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:57:24 +1300
> From: Hadley Rich <hads at nice.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: MythTV in NZ <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID: <200712011257.25218.hads at nice.net.nz>
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> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:49:54 Steve Hodge wrote:
> > > However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> > > postings with any commercial content?
>
> I'm opposed to commercial posts on community lists personally.
>
> To me it's acceptable if someone without a commercial interest plugs a
service
> but not if the person posting is commercially involved.
>
> Obviously I don't mind a small link in a signature or something :)
>
> hads
>
> --
> http://nicegear.co.nz
> New Zealand's VoIP Supplier
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:06:23 +1300
> From: Steven Ellis <steven at openmedia.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: MythTV in NZ <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID: <4750B38F.5000401 at openmedia.co.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hadley Rich wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:49:54 Steve Hodge wrote:
> >
> >>> However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> >>> postings with any commercial content?
> >>>
> >
> > I'm opposed to commercial posts on community lists personally.
> >
> > To me it's acceptable if someone without a commercial interest plugs a
service
> > but not if the person posting is commercially involved.
> >
> > Obviously I don't mind a small link in a signature or something :)
> >
> > hads
> >
> >
> Point taken. I didn't take any offence in the issue being raised, just
> thought I'd make the suggestion as an alternative.
>
> Its hard sometime to work out when a line is being crossed, and people
> have some quite different opinions.
>
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Steven Ellis - Technical Director
> OpenMedia Limited
> email   - steven at openmedia.co.nz
> sales   - sales at openmedia.co.nz
> support - support at openmedia.co.nz
> website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:36:28 +1300
> From: Robert Fisher <robert at fisher.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re:  New To List
> To: MythTV in NZ <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID: <200712011636.28936.robert at fisher.net.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
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> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:39:29 pm Criggie wrote:
> > Criggie wrote:
> > > Steve - this is an off list comment mostly because I don't want to
> >
> > I'd like to apologise to you Steve, for my misdirected email.  I really
> > didn't mean to post that to the mailing list.
> >
> > However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> > postings with any commercial content?
>
> I reckon that Steve does so much for the advancement of MythTV in NZ that
I
> can accept a few plugs from him.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:13:55 +1300
> From: "Nick Rout" <nick.rout at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID:
> <52bd4a780711302113o78db98ffya7416ccad24c06f8 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Funnily enough I nearly added a plug for openmedia in my initial reply
> in the thread. But I forgot, or pressed "send" too early or something.
>
> I don't want wholesale ads or self promotion. Steve advertises his
> product with every one of his overly long .sigs ;-)
>
> Yes Steve does a great amount for the mythtv community, probably more
> than anyone else in NZ.  Hads also does heaps with his development of
> epgsnoop, remembering that without an EPG Myth is infinitely poorer .
> So do lots of people. Quantifying individual contributions to an
> overall community is difficult. Which makes it difficult to say where
> a line should be drawn, i would rather say that IMHO as list admin,
> direct plugs of your own product are discouraged, unless in response
> to a fairly direct question seeking a pointer to something commercial.
>
> is that vague enough? I don't think we have anything approaching a
> spam problem, and certainly don't want to lose any posters!
>
> On Dec 1, 2007 4:36 PM, Robert Fisher <robert at fisher.net.nz> wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:39:29 pm Criggie wrote:
> > > Criggie wrote:
> > > > Steve - this is an off list comment mostly because I don't want to
> > >
> > > I'd like to apologise to you Steve, for my misdirected email.  I
really
> > > didn't mean to post that to the mailing list.
> > >
> > > However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> > > postings with any commercial content?
> >
> > I reckon that Steve does so much for the advancement of MythTV in NZ
that I
> > can accept a few plugs from him.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:13:43 +1300
> From: Corrin Lakeland <lakeland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re:  New To List
> To: MythTV in NZ <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID: <F6892EE1-16B4-46FD-86A9-25491FA69F9B at gmail.com>
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> My personal feeling was his message was okay, but yeah, it is hard to
> draw the line sometime
>
> As sells go, it was pretty soft.
>
>
> On 1/12/2007, at 12:39 PM, Criggie wrote:
>
> > Criggie wrote:
> >> Steve - this is an off list comment mostly because I don't want to
> >
> > I'd like to apologise to you Steve, for my misdirected email.  I
> > really
> > didn't mean to post that to the mailing list.
> >
> > However now that I have - what does the list membership think about
> > postings with any commercial content?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Criggie
> >
> > http://criggie.dyndns.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:22:15 +1300
> From: "Nick Rout" <nick.rout at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID:
> <52bd4a780711302122n30359f14tb40ac833d143ccba at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Dec 1, 2007 6:13 PM, Corrin Lakeland <lakeland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My personal feeling was his message was okay, but yeah, it is hard to
> > draw the line sometime
> >
> > As sells go, it was pretty soft.
>
>
> Agreed, but I was asked what i thought about selling posts and the
> response is basically i want none, because the line between soft and
> hard, and the line between someone who contributes enough to be cut a
> bit of slack and someone who doesn't are both impossible to draw.
>
> Needless to say I wouldn't get involved again in the absence of
> something particularly blatant or a complaint. frankly I didn't even
> notice Steve's post and I am only expressing a preference because I
> was asked. End of story thanks, let me get on with the hours of TV
> myth has decided I want to watch :-)
>
> I am very happy with the way the list runs.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:26:29 +1300
> From: "Nick Rout" <nick.rout at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] apology Re: New To List
> To: "MythTV in NZ" <mythtvnz at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>
> Message-ID:
> <52bd4a780711302126g5aebb08s1003fdc435ee1edd at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Dec 1, 2007 6:22 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 2007 6:13 PM, Corrin Lakeland <lakeland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My personal feeling was his message was okay, but yeah, it is hard to
> > > draw the line sometime
> > >
> > > As sells go, it was pretty soft.
> >
> >
> > Agreed, but I was asked what i thought about selling posts and the
> > response is basically i want none, because the line between soft and
> > hard, and the line between someone who contributes enough to be cut a
> > bit of slack and someone who doesn't are both impossible to draw.
> >
> > Needless to say I wouldn't get involved again in the absence of
> > something particularly blatant or a complaint. frankly I didn't even
> > notice Steve's post and I am only expressing a preference because I
> > was asked. End of story thanks, let me get on with the hours of TV
> > myth has decided I want to watch :-)
> >
> > I am very happy with the way the list runs.
> >
>
> OK the last laugh is on gmail, which is showing me right now a
> targeted ad for email marketing in NZ. LOL, "All your mail are belong
> to us."
>
>
>
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