[GNUz] Re: Last night and future meetings (more spleen)

Rik Tindall gnuz@inode.co.nz
Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:36:49 +1300


Houston, we have a PROBLEM..

Did anyone else see this as a massive & off-the-mark over-reaction?

At any rate, I won't be answering it until tonight or tomorrow. But 
equal or greater force of argument must be used to get the bee out of 
this geek's bonnet.

A second (or more) opinion is sought first.

Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> On Thu 15 Feb 2007 00:46:01 NZDT +1300, Rik Tindall wrote:
> 
>> Seems to me, if you really want to teach GNU/Linux,
> 
> Then I would teach how to use software, and Linux software that would
> be. Later on I would mention the open source model but not excessively.
> In any case I would make sure not to include political cr*p like the
> GNU/ in front of Linux and other likewise things. If you like to do
> that, please open your own GNU/Politico website, mailing list and
> teaching classes.
> 
>> then you start with 
>> BSD - in the classroom, that is.
> 
> Please let me know beforehand, so I get time enough to warn all my
> acquaintances not to bother.
> 
> New people are either interested in server/admin type stuff, in which
> case they have a clue already, or they are desktop users, in which case
> BSD is useless.
> 
> Remind yourself Rik that Billy got hugely big while unix vendors were
> peddling user-unfriendly stuff and peeing against each other. Linux/BSD
> peeing contests are just repeating the same mistake and are not
> productive. To make it plain, I'm not interested. A talk on what BSD
> does for me on the desktop is not of much use either as far as I can
> see, because I see already that all my applications which I need to get
> semi-professsional work done on Linux aren't on BSD which ticks off BSD
> for the bin at that point, and I don't think you'd be the right
> presenter for that Rik because I'd want to see applications, not
> politics. You've made clear now that you're only interested in politics.
> I am not, and I don't think many others here are either. End of story
> from me.
> 
> I am looking forward to the upcoming presentation on BSD at the root
> user level, because it helps me admin a BSD box on the server level. It
> would be stellarly useful if it was aimed at users who can already run a
> Linux command line.
> 
> Volker

Talk about self-interested..

-- 
Rik