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> My reading into the issue is still too formative to take on the bigger,
> wider license issues properly, but..
>
> For the world I know (PC users who could be using "Linux"), it's a
> matter of market situation - does the community own the name, or does
> Big Blue/Business (for e.g. among several incl. Novell)? I will be
> expanding the argument on CLUG-list asap, but to abbreviate, GNU/Linux
> is the name that ensures the developer community does. That is, we must
> retain the momentum of "Linux" through clarifying GNU/Linux as early in
> the product cycle as possible. This is largely about branding &
> 'propaganda', but it is education we are on the side of, not politics
> (though they are not separable).

if i am following you, (Big "If") then you are saying that the inclision
of "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" differntiates us somehow from
IBM/Redhat/Novell/Big Business.

However it doesn't. those big businesses use GNU too.

or am i missing your point.

speak in words of one syllable, its what i understand best. I am too used
to having to explain things to judges and criminals.

>
> This is not about egos or sour grapes, and there is no 'must; either -
> "Linux" is the one product ready to GPL knowledge itself - hence it's
> significance in the GNU(/Linux) drive .
>
> hth
>
> Rik
>
> Jim Cheetham wrote:
>
>> From the FSF/GNU web pages, we find this reasonable comment :-
>>
>> <quote>
>> http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html
>> People who know they are using a system that came out of the GNU
>> Project can see a direct relationship between themselves and GNU. They
>> won't automatically agree with our philosophy, but at least they will
>> see a reason to think seriously about it. In contrast, people who
>> consider themselves "Linux users", and believe that the GNU Project
>> "developed tools which proved to be useful in Linux", typically
>> perceive only an indirect relationship between GNU and themselves.
>> They may just ignore the GNU philosophy when they come across it.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Here's a provocative question for you - given the above statement,
>> shouldn't RMS be pushing for *everyone who chooses the GPL* to be
>> referred to as "GNU/<name>" ?
>>
>> Picking solely on Linux as the recipient of "you must mention GNU"
>> comments sounds too much like sour grapes. Perhaps the GPL should have
>> included an advertising clause, like the BSD licenses?
>>
>> -jim
>>
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