[chbot] Recommendations for fibre in CHCH
Mark Atherton
markaren1 at xtra.co.nz
Thu Mar 4 20:22:49 GMT 2021
Thanks Charles.
Who is your ISP, are you happy with them, roughly how expensive, what
service speeds ?
-Mark
On 5/03/2021 8:32 AM, Charles Manning wrote:
> Mark
>
> It is quite common for the installers to have to do something different.
> The people setting up the job don't necessarily fully think through
> where the conduit needs to go. My installation ended up being a bit
> different, with some extra above-ground conduit I was not expecting, but
> it was neat enough.
>
> Unlike with ADSL, you will not get a dial tone in a power outage. There
> is no ring voltage over fibre because it is non-conductive. That has to
> be recreated in-house by the fibre modem thingy (I assure you that is
> the correct technical term :-)). If that is not getting power then no
> dial tone. If you have a UPS then you should be good.
>
> -- Charles
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:35 PM Helmut Walle <helmut.walle at gmail.com
> <mailto:helmut.walle at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> "low-cost, high performance [... decent] customer support" - pick
> any two...
>
> I've got MyRepublic 200/100 fibre unlimited for $75 / month and
> haven't seen any effectively
> cheaper services here. The fibre installer installed as surveyed,
> but it was only 10m or so
> along the fence, then buried for about 1m from the fence to the
> house - easy job. But they
> should commit to doing it either at no extra cost, or tell you that
> you will have to pay, before
> the installer turns up. Best to confirm in advance, though...
>
> Trouble so far: I am getting VoiP telephony from a 3rd party.
> Somehow it always lost audio one
> way every 14-15 minutes, and depending on when the call started it
> could happen anytime from
> connecting to 14-15 minutes in, but when reconnecting immediately it
> lasted for 14-15 minutes
> until it next happened. I was suspecting that maybe some aspect of
> CGNAT was upsetting the SIP
> stuff, which admittedly is a bit of a hack... But MyRepublic were
> initially finger-pointing at
> 3rd party. I ran some experiments with 3rd party over other TCP/IP
> networks, and none of the
> alternatives showed that same problem at all. After some more
> technical discussion with their
> support team they upgraded the firmware on the Technicolor router
> that they had supplied when I
> got the fibre install, and that fixed it. So that was a bit of a
> mission. Now why am I not
> simply taking VoiP from the fibre ISP? Well, I call quite a few
> people who still only have
> copper phone lines in Europe, and the calling rates from MyRepublic
> for my use are a rip-off...
>
> But the fibre performance really is the 200/100 - it really lets you
> see pretty clearly where
> the bottlenecks in trunk connections are, or if a server can't
> handle the speed. For example, I
> had to sync a 6 GB file to OneDrive for work today, and that
> uploaded at slightly over the 100
> Mbaud for most of the time and was done very quickly (to a MS server
> physically close to us),
> but when I was downloading content from my private OneDrive account
> over the past several days,
> I never got significantly over 20 Mbps per concurrent file download
> (so several files at the
> same time went at about 20 Mbps each), and that may well have been
> from an overseas MS server.
>
> YMMV...
>
> And you already mentioned that you will be avoiding fixed wireless
> at all costs...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Helmut.
>
> --
> +------------------------+
> | Helmut Walle |
> | Helmut.Walle at gmail.com <mailto:Helmut.Walle at gmail.com> |
> | +64-21-446 137 |
> +------------------------+
>
> On 04/03/2021 21:45, Mark Atherton wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Probably time to drop copper :) We are very close to out local
> kerb-side box, and even ADSL2+
> > has served us very well so far.
> >
> > Any reconsiderations for a low-cost, high performance
> Internet-fibre supplier ?
> >
> > Expect descent customer support, unlimited high rate (I have seen
> 800Mb+ offered), probably
> > bundled with existing landline). 30Mb fibre is no better than we
> currently have, and isn't worth
> > the trouble.
> >
> > Spark have been pestering me to move to wireless, that got me
> very excited (in a bad way).
> >
> > Two issues:
> >
> > - We need a specific fibre run. I have heard horror stories where
> contractors come out to do a
> > survey, then the installer does the job the way he feels fit,
> rather than the way the survey-guy
> > agreed to.
> >
> > - Maintain dial-tone in event of power loss. Assume a small UPS
> is available; but it does
> > obviously required the kerb-side box remains powered (assuming it
> does an active remux from the
> > Central Office).
> >
> > Good experiences, and bad experiences please.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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