[chbot] Live video stream

Tue Dec 1 23:21:40 GMT 2015

Can you keep us updated on progress please.

I thought that youtube required 5k subscribers to a channel before they 
would consider broadcasting as you are doing

Will be most happy if I have this wrong, because this could be a V 
useful service...

-mark

On 2/12/2015 11:56 a.m., Stephen Irons wrote:
> It took 30 minutes to
>
>   * read the youtube help on live streaming
>   * create a stream event on youtube
>   * download and install OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) on my PC
>   * configure OBS to capture video and audio and send it to youtube
>   * watch the event using a different web browser (but on the same PC)
>
> Have to do some Real Work now, but it looks promising, provided that I 
> can satisfy myself that:
>
>   * the event can be relatively private (invitation only, or at not
>     advertised and unlisted)
>   * the event can be completely free of adverts; I suspect this will
>     be a pay-for privilege
>
> Other factors
>
>   * 3 hours at 1.5 MBits/sec is 2 Gbytes. Allowing for 25% streaming
>     overhead gives 2.5 GBytes. Have to get a data addon: 2 degrees
>     charges 50c per MB for casual data usage (for a total of $1200!),
>     but offer a 3 GB data addon for $50, or about 1.7c / MB
>   * you standard USB data modem advertises 21 Mbits per sec, which
>     should be enough to carry 2--2.5 Mbits per sec for the media stream
>
> OBS knows how to stream to other broadcasting services, so now I have 
> a few other alternative to investigate:
>
>   * Twitch (apparently popular with gamers: rather than playing, you
>     can watch others play)
>   * hitbox.tv <http://hitbox.tv>
>   * beam.pro <http://beam.pro>
>   * DailyMotion
>   * Livecoding.tv
>
> Thank you for the pointer to broadcast services: I thought there must 
> be some available, but was obviously searching for the wrong thing.
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> On 1 December 2015 at 23:30, Spencer Travers 
> <spencer.travers at gmail.com <mailto:spencer.travers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Have you looked at YouTube live streaming? I'm not sure about
>     being able to restrict it to just your family viewing, but it
>     would take care of a lot of the back end for you.
>
>     Spencer
>
>     On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Stephen Irons
>     <stephen.irons at clear.net.nz <mailto:stephen.irons at clear.net.nz>>
>     wrote:
>
>         We have a family celebration coming up in January, and want to
>         be able to provide a live audio and video stream from the
>         event for people who cannot be there.
>
>         I have the following available:
>
>           * Video camera with microphone input, microphone, and AV
>             capture device that are compatible with V4L2
>           * Laptop running Ubuntu 14.04 desktop
>           * Mobile data modem
>           * Low-spec VPS (2 core, 4G RAM, 1 Gbps network connection, 5
>             TB bandwidth per month) running Ubuntu 10.04 server
>
>         The plan would be for the laptop to capture the audio and
>         video which will send it to the server. Absent family and
>         friends can then connect to the server, preferably using a web
>         browser, to watch the proceedings. There will probably be 4 or
>         5 families watching from around the world.
>
>         Some rationale:
>
>           * I prefer the video camera, microphone and capture device
>             to a web cam because it should give more control over the
>             picture and sound quality.
>           * I prefer the video camera, microphone and capture device
>             to an IP cam because I don't want to spend the money.
>           * I don't want all of the guests connecting directly to the
>             laptop, as all their traffic goes via the mobile data
>             modem -- I suspect costs will mount up quickly, though I
>             should estimate what it will cost.
>
>         Now, VLC can capture the video and stream it to another
>         instance of VLC using a few different protocols. I have not
>         had success with the audio yet, but it might just need to
>         swear at it a bit more.
>
>         Motion and ZoneMinder might be appropriate, but ZoneMinder
>         does not support audio.
>
>         Can anyone offer any advice, before I spend days playing with
>         things: what software to use, what to avoid, what have I not
>         thought of, will my low-spec VPS be adequate to server 5
>         streams, any other thoughts?
>
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