[mythtvnz] Recordings not happening without a reboot

Nick Rout nick.rout at gmail.com
Sat Jun 21 06:18:27 BST 2014


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Worik Stanton <worik.stanton at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20/06/14 19:25, Nick Rout wrote:
>> There are many people using mythtv all over the world, and using it
>> successfully. You seem to have an inordinate number of problems.
>
> I am having a lot of problems.
>
> Do not take this the wrong way also, but a lot of people have a lot of
> problems with Myth.  I too had a stable setup that ran for over a yaar
> (I forget how long).  The problem is that once problems start, because
> of Myth TV's huge list of things it does, they multiply like rabbits.
>
> I am a user of a lot of complex computer systems over the years, and
> Myth is good, for what its design philosophy is.  (Back in the day
> controlling large collections of printers using MS Windows is the worst
> example I can think of off of the top of my head, though the IP
> protection on the SUN compilers cost a client of mine a day at contract
> rates back in 2001).
>
> I think that MythTV has a design philosophy that I am uncomfortable
> with.  It is very capable, a wonderful example of a large and complex
> system.  And I will keep using it as it is the best there is.  But I
> cannot help but think that a 'unix philosophy' would be better.
>
> That would be a collection of programmes that can copy from a digital
> tuner to disk,

Mythbackend

> programmes to play those files,

mythfrontend

> a programme to configure
> the tuners,

mythtv-setup

>a file in which the minimally useful details of those
> programmes are kept

Keeping absolutely every setting in the database (apart form the
whereabouts and authentication details of the dB) makes it difficult
for a lot of people, but is also a strength.

>and the whole caboodle stiched together with cron
> jobs would be an improvement.
>

mythbackend has a very sophisiticated scheduer, which handles
situations a lot more complex than cron could ever do.


> It would not have all the bells and whistles - the search functions, the
> way Myth will keep a search for years and record much loved programmes
> after you have forgotten they existed... But it would be easier to set
> up and it would be less fragile.

If you want something simpler, tvheadend may be for you. It is
certainly worth a look, although it is pretty well a one man band as
far as coders is concerned, and that is another sort of stability I
would be worried about. It also has a XBMC frontend that apparently
functions well. I think you wil find it a LOT less flexible than myth
though.


>
> When Myth started, IMO, things were not so simple.  Configuring tuner
> cards was the most finicky part of the process IIRC.  In these days of
> digital tuners it is one of the simplest parts.
>
> Opinions are easy to have and easy to express.  I will quieten down now
> about mine unless I build such a system, and given my workload that is
> unlikely!
>
> Cutting my losses and reconfiguring on known good hardware is a much
> better approach.

Yep and as I say KISS!

>
>
> W
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