[mythtvnz] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 [ivtv] not supported in 0.25

Sat Aug 25 00:26:45 BST 2012

Stephen

 I know that the PVR-150 board is working correctly. I use swappable hard
disk's for the MythBuntu programme this allows me to keep my original 0.23
on one disk and upgrade to 0.25 on another disk a NEW INSTALLATION. This
gives me the ability to go back to the original installation. Under 0.23
the PVR-150 is working correctly. All the data is separate from these
disks. Under 0.25 the Probed infor: is correct “Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150
[intv]”.

 I do have a satellite card also installed for FreeView and EPGSnoop (So
that I can get the SKY EPG). The card and EPGSnoop is working correctly
under 0.25.

 My problem seems to be that the IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card has been remover
with the closest being MPEG-2 encoder card. But there is no way to tell it
how the SKY is connected. With the IVTV card it connects to the “Default
input: Composite 1”. Without a way of telling how the SKY box is connected
I can see no way of it working. I have tried selecting a SKY channel and
get a blank screen.

 I note you comment about the firmware. But even if I copy the firmware
from 0.23 to 0.24 there would not be a way to tell the programme that the
SKY is connected to the composite input as the Firmware will not change the
graphical input screen in the backend setup.

 I did look at My Openbox S10 a couple of months ago. But my SKY card thing
is too old to work with it. I have been looking at some way of getting a
new card from SKY.

 Thank you for the comments about sasc-ng but it looks to complex. I am now
thinking of purchasing a Hauppauge HD-PVR about $300 as it looks like it is
supported. It is a new USB High Definition input device. It seems to be
listed as one of the options in the Back-end.

 Thanks again

 Tim

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Stephen Worthington <
stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:40:14 +1200, you wrote:
>
> >I use Mythbuntu – I have been thinking for some time of upgrading from
> >mythtv 0.23 to 0.25 using Mythbuntu 12.04. I have spent the day working on
> >it just to find that Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 [ivtv] which I have used for
> >years is not supported! I had read the release notes carefully before
> >starting the upgrade but there was no mention of this change – that I
> could
> >see. I use the PVR-150 only for the video input from my SKY box.
> >
> > I have no idea how to resolve this problem – any suggestions – maybe USB
> >video capture?
> >
> >Please be specific as I new to this.
> >
> >Tim
>
> Since my mother's MythTV box uses a PVR-150 for recording FM radio and
> I need to upgrade her to 0.25 soon, I am very interested in this
> problem.  And like you I have a PVR-500 in my MythTV box for recording
> Sky.  A PVR-500 is basically just a dual PVR-150.
>
> I can not boot my Mythbuntu 12.04 test partition just at the moment as
> it is on the production box, but looking at the logs from the last
> time I booted it, I can see the usual things for my PVR-500 card, so
> the PVR-500 seems to be supported.  I would be very surprised if it
> was supported and the PVR-150 was not.
>
> So, other than it not working in MythTV, what causes you to think the
> PVR-150 is not supported?  Do you see the /dev/video0, /dev/video24
> and /dev/video32 devices for the PVR-150?  Is /dev/radio0 there
> (presuming your PVR-150 has the FM radio option)?
>
> How are you setting up your 0.25 system?  Is it an upgrade of your
> existing boot partition, or a new install?  If it is a new install, it
> may not have the necessary firmware files installed in /lib/firmware.
> It is so long ago that I set up my PVR-500 that I do not remember the
> file names, but they should be able to be found on a web search, or
> may be listed in messages in your boot logs (/var/log/dmesg,
> /var/log/kern.log, and dmesg command output).  You could also compare
> the working /lib/firmware directory against the not working one to see
> what may be missing.
>
>
>
> As to alternatives for recording Sky, there are no other easy ones
> that I know of.  There are very few analogue cards with S-Video inputs
> and hardware MPEG encoding like the PVR-150 and PVR-500.  I do not
> know of any USB ones, and virtually all analogue hardware is out of
> production now anyway.  If your CPU is fast enough, it may be able to
> do the MPEG encoding from raw video using an analogue card without a
> hardware MPEG encoder.  But that is a fraught process as the CPU must
> not be switched away from the encoding job for very long or you start
> to lose blocks of frames from the recording.  I think my new
> motherboard could do the job, as it has a 3.2 GHz quad core processor
> and 8 Gibytes of RAM, so it could just dedicate a core to the job. But
> I would want to experiment carefully to make sure that there were no
> lost frames happening.
>
> Or you could install a card reader in your MythTV box for your Sky
> card, or use box like my Openbox S10 satellite receiver to hold the
> Sky card and act as a card server:
>
>   http://www.yhdigital.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=36
>
> You can then put a DVB-S2 card in your MythTV box and use sasc-ng to
> get keys from the Sky card and decode the Sky channels so that they
> can be recorded much as normal DVB-S and DVB-S2 satellite channels
> can.  This allows full digital recordings of Sky, like the MySky boxes
> do, including HD recordings.  I have this working on an experimental
> basis.  The problem with this setup is that the Sky card seems to need
> to be in a real Sky decoder for a few hours once a month or so for its
> internal keys to be updated.  But I have not got to that point yet as
> my experiments with this have only been for a few hours at a time.
>
> Take a look at this page (Italian):
>
>   http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=460152
>
> and its Google translation from Italian:
>
>
>
> http://translate.google.co.nz/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-it.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D460152
>
> for how to set this up.  I have it working using a TBS 5922 DVB-S2 USB
> receiver:
>
>   http://www.tbsdtv.com/products/tbs5922-dvb-s2-tv-tuner-usb.html
>
> which I bought from:
>
>   http://www.buydvb.net
>
> I recommend using this for sasc-ng, as it comes with full Linux driver
> support, done by compiling drivers they provide from source code. That
> allows me to do the necessary patches for sasc-ng support in the TBS
> driver compile process, rather than having to build a complete custom
> kernel.
>
> It is possible with sasc-ng to have multiple DVB-S/DVB-S2 cards in
> multiple boxes all using the one card server and one Sky card, so you
> can record multiple Sky channels at once.
>
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