> If I use Terra I don't, however Terra does have the following in osd.xml It's bottom left, under the channel number for me. See screenshot I just took now: http://iforce.co.nz/i/sojh5zap.png > <template>HH:MM</template> Only difference between your osd.xml and mine is mine has the template in lower case: <template>hh:mm</template> Ross