[mythtvnz] Return to NZ

[David Lowe]

May I be the first to welcome you home Russ. Shame about the Blues though...

As a new user, I've only just started using the 'power search' functions and
so I'd second your call for a better EPG. I think we are probably used to
what we have and it has gotten better, but its still good to hear your
o'seas perspective.

I'll also offer my time to help if any bodies are needed.

−David
(from Crusader Country...)



On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:12 PM, NZ Russ <nzruss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Been a subscriber to the NZ mailing list for about 18 months of the 3 yrs I
> was in the US. I am glad to be home in good ol' Auckland - and looking
> forward to being a bit more active in the local Auclkand_Linux and MythvNZ
> community.
>
> I managed to get my mythtv box (with a Skystart II DVB-S) card hooked into
> Freeview with no problems, and am really happy with the results.  (Before I
> left the US I also bought a second card, which turned out to be that later
> model that is not supported by Linux - so only have one DVB-S card currently
> fitted). Let me just say thanks for all the tips and advice on getting setup
> with mythtv in NZ.
>
> I do have one major observation about the differences between my experience
> here and the US with Mythtv. Three words: EPG, EPG, EPG.  After having been
> a subscriber to the fantastic EPG that SchedulesDirect offer, NOTHING beats
> good EPG to rapidly improve the Mythtv experience.  ( I dont recall ever
> having a seen a fault with SchedulesDirect EPG in terms of program names
> changing and you could have real confidence that your Myth box would not
> miss your shows.
>
> When the whole Zap-2-it labs folded and they had to setup Schedules-Direct,
> there was much discussion around the source of the EPG. From what I gathered
> Schedules Direct get their info from Tribune Media Services for a small fee.
> It also seems that the TV companies PAY Tribune Media Services to scrape
> their TV guides and then Tribune SELLS the aggregated data to other
> companies (I guess like TV Guides etc). Anyway, this company makes money
> coming and going.   I guess they have good economies of scale to work as
> well as a large and fragmented TV market.  I have to admit that I haven't
> used any of the webscraping tools or the unofficial feeds. Partly as I'm not
> sure where they are (www) or just how reliable they are, but also to ease my
> (and your) Internet GB/Month (p2p anyone?. Also it seems to be a constant
> game of cat and mouse with cease and desist letters from what I see on the
> MythtvNZ site - so telling me to 'shove off and use those' might also be the
> answer.
>
> It IS great having the EPG off the EIT on Freeview, and while I believe it
> is getting better (it seems thanks to Steve talking with Freeview), I think
> it has way to go.  I'm also not sure the EIT stream supports all the info
> that MythTv can accept (anyone?), or even if standard Freeview boxes would
> benefit from good EPG, and I haven't got many ideas on how a suitable long
> term solution could be resolved. But I am willing to do actual work toward
> getting one.
>
> I'd be interested in any ideas and am willing to make some calls if we can
> collectively come up with a robust approach that benefits everyone. Perhaps
> Advertising in the EPG Stream? Paying for a XML feed from "TV guide"?   I
> have some good friends in marketing companies that have regular contact with
> these companies. Also seems Steve has direct access to TVNZ and Freeview...
> nice one!
>
> So is it worth putting in some ideas toward getting better EPG? Or is "the
> collective" happy with what we have?
>
> Cheers again, and look forward to being a bit more active on the list.
> Again, thanks to you guys, Steve, Hads, Nick, Dean, Robin and the other
> regulars who keep the rest of us interested.
> (BTW, Robin, did you work at Waikato Polytech c 1992?)
>
> I do have a tecnical issue, but that is another subject...
>
> Cheers
>
> Russ.
>
>
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