There's an article on Stuff today: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3624424a13,00.html Sounds like TVNZ and Canwest are quite close to entering a deal to broadcast at least their existing free to air channels (1,2,3,C4). They seem to be leaning towards DVB-S which would be good news for those of use with DVB-S cards, at least if they continue to use the same satellite as Sky. Steve