[chbot] Android data-leak sniffer project

Richard Jones richard.jones.1952 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 17 07:34:11 BST 2015


Surely every member of a robotics group will be interested in android
communications. Richard :-)
On 17 Sep 2015 16:13, "Mark Atherton" <markaren1 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> Volker,
>
> My aim is to get a small setup together so that group members can connect
> their own smart phone via WiFi to the internet, and see live (or capture)
> unwanted or unexpected transactions This will require some interpretive
> help from you when it is running. No promises when this will happen until I
> do some more work.
>
> If you could get a 15 min talk together for Mon. that will be great - not
> sure if packet dumps are going to get much of the audience excited, but a
> description of aims, setup and findings will be worth a go. Can you can
> bring a laptop with VGA out, and required material for this ?
>
> ** question to group ** who is interested in this project ?
>
> -Mark
>
> On 17/09/2015 2:56 p.m., Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>
>> On Thu 17 Sep 2015 07:06:21 NZST +1200, Mark Atherton wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, had a hectic 7 days and haven't read the list since I posted.
>>
>> Volker,
>>>
>>> Firstly, I assume that you are keen to progress with this project.
>>> Please let me know if otherwise.
>>>
>> As I said, I don't mind, but don't personally need it as I have my own.
>> No-one has spoken up who would be interested in using it if it was set
>> up at BR05. Why set something up that collects dust?
>>
>> I can give a sufficient demonstration using packet dumps of my own
>> setup, polishing it by Monday is the trickier bit.
>>
>> It sounds like a machine is required with connections to an Access
>>> Point (to connect to the Android device), and an Ethernet NIC (to
>>> attach to the Internet).
>>>
>> Yes. And that machine needs to run pfsense (FreeBSD). It's a one-image
>> installer from USB stick (CD install images available if the box can't
>> boot a stick).
>>
>> First hardware solution could be an old laptop with wireless and
>>> wired NICs (provided the internal wireless card could be configured
>>> as an AP).
>>>
>> Laptop wifi as AP? Sounds like a bad idea because of the hardware not
>> being compatible with freebsd. Atheros chips are best, the rest is touch
>> and go. Or probably frequently touch no go.
>>
>> Second option could be an old small form factor PC with a PCI plug
>>> in wireless card (as well as on-motherboard NIC).
>>>
>> Could work, atheros chip wifi cards are cheap from tp-link. I have never
>> tried it, if it isn't power-up and go I'd be reluctant to continue on
>> this.
>>
>> Third option could be an old small form factor PC with a PCI plug in
>>> Ethernet NIC, external AP (as well as on-motherboard NIC).
>>>
>> I have an old PCI Ethernet card spare for this. It would be the easiest
>> to get going. The smaller the PC physically the better. Needs to have
>> decent RAM, 1GB min, 2GB better, not sure 512M will give trouble.
>> This is the data collector and does not need a monitor. You use another
>> laptop to run the show, and that can be on the projector.
>>
>> We could try to set this up next week to see where we get stuck and what
>> needs fixing by the Oct meeting.
>>
>> pfsense can be installed relatively quickly from USB stick and saves its
>> config in a single xml file, from which it can also be restored. The
>> whole round can still take some time but nothing serious would be lost
>> by wiping the disk. It might be faster to image the disk back.
>>
>> Volker
>>
>>
>
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