[chbot] Mailing list operation was: Test message.

Robin Gilks robin at gilks.org
Tue Nov 18 01:19:27 GMT 2014

> Hi Richard,
> Posting guidelines sound like a good idea to me.
> -mark
> At 07:42 a.m. 18/11/2014, you wrote:
>>A lot of really helpful information there Volker, many thanks.
>>Are you arguing against test driven development?
>>Or re-observing that hindsight is an exact science?
>>Â  Maybe it is time to formulate some rules /
>>guidelines regarding posts to our email
>>reflector? I'm quite happy to receive and
>>respond to the odd test message if someone has a problem.
>>Sent from my phone
>>On 18/11/2014 6:39 AM, "Volker Kuhlmann"
>><<mailto:list0570 at paradise.net.nz>list0570 at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>On Mon 17 Nov 2014 20:01:28 NZDT +1300, Carl Ranson wrote:
>>Dudes, please refrain from sending test messages, that just clutters
>>everyone up and never achieves anything for which there isn't a better
>>and/or simpler way to find out.
>>They key information everyone can read easily:
>> > Chchrobotics mailing list
>> <mailto:Chchrobotics at lists.linuxnut.co.nz>Chchrobotics at lists.linuxnut.co.nz
>> > http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/chchrobotics
>> > Mail Archives:
>> <http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/chchrobotics/>http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/chchrobotics/
>>The question "why do I get two copies" is entirely to do with your side
>>of receiving email, or is only your impression. Mailman (the mailing
>>list manager used for this mailing list) does not send two copies.
>>Period. An email is the same if it is sent to the same address and has
>>the same date stamp(!) and/or message-id header[1]. If it's not the same
>>you didn't get two copies.
>>Mailman is a very flexible program and you can configure your membership
>>subsciption in many ways. Check the settings before asking "why does
>>...", "why do ...", etc. The listinfo link above gets you to it.
>>By default, mailman does NOT send you a copy of your own email (unless
>>the list administrator changed this for this list), and also does NOT
>>send you another copy if the person who sent the email sent it to the
>>list and cc'ed you on it (unless the list administrator changed this for
>>this list). First thing I always do when subscribing to a mailman list
>>is to fix these two settings up for me (I want to see if my email went
>>through, and I want to get all the list copies, including mine and cc'ed
>>ones, because my list email sorting gives me a complete list archive to
>>search and cc'ed list stuff gets deleted from my inbox).
>>To find out if you are subscribed use the "lost password" link. You
>>either get a password or an error emailed back. You could also subscribe
>>again and the response will tell you the same.
>>Could everyone please remove "mail reflector" from their vocabulary.
>>Apart from being the wrong name it also does not reflect reality of how
>>things work.
>>[1] Read your mail program's manual to find out how to inspect message
>>Volker Kuhlmann
>>Â  Â  Please do not CC list postings to me.


Also, a total pain when reading from the archives, is top-posting

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?


To paraphrase...

Because it's messing up the reading order.
>>Please stop top-posting.

BTW I've just deleted 3 copies of the sig from this reply as well as
replies being in a non-reading order.

Robin Gilks

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