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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I&#8217;m starting to lean towards RAID1 or RAID10. There is one
thing that I am not clear on with RAID1, maybe someone can help me here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I understand the RAID is created out of partitions, as opposed to
physical drives. Does this mean I can divide 3 x HDD&#8217;s into 6 equal
partitions, and then set up a RAID-1 solution that mirrors each partition on
another partition that resides on a separate physical drive? ie I don&#8217;t need
an even number of disks for a mirrored system? If so, how does adding in more disks
work? <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
mythtvnz-bounces@lists.linuxnut.co.nz
[mailto:mythtvnz-bounces@lists.linuxnut.co.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean
Pemberton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 16 June 2009 11:04 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> MythTV in NZ<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtvnz] File System for RAID-5<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Jim Cheetham wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>

<pre>On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Karl Leaning<a
href="mailto:mythtv@objectivity.co.nz">&lt;mythtv@objectivity.co.nz&gt;</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre>

<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Umm, no with raid 5, you lose a drive not the data. add a new drive<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&quot;rebuild&quot; the set and continue as normal...<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>

<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>Yes, true. Do you have a spare drive online? If you did, wouldn't you<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>be using it as a hot spare or part of the data set already?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>If you lose a second drive while one drive is out of action ... you<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>lose data. Gone.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Almost everything which has
been mentioned in this thread is correct.&nbsp; It just comes down to what
experiences you have had in the past.<br>
<br>
I have to agree that RAID is not a backup solution.&nbsp; I run 2x 1TB USB
disks for off-site backup (no tv episodes or DVD rips make it onto these as
they are all disposable).<br>
<br>
For data continuity on the other hand, I run the disks on my SAN in a RAID-5
set.<br>
<br>
Recently one of the 1TB disks threw 'recoverable'[1] errors up in the kernel
log.<br>
<br>
I called my equipment supplier and lodged an RMA.&nbsp; Took 2 days.<br>
When they had my new drive ready, I pulled the faulty drive out of the hotswap
bay[2][3] and swapped it with them.<br>
I put the new drive in, it rebuilt, nothing missed a beat.<br>
<br>
Now sure there are a number of things which could have gone wrong during this
process.&nbsp; Most of them have been covered (second disk failing while I had
the first one out, rebuild failing, disk TOTALLY failing while waiting for the
RMA).&nbsp;&nbsp; It is important to note however that in his case it all went
as planned.<br>
<br>
So while people are correct to talk about potential disaster from running
RAID-5.&nbsp; These are not guaranteed outcomes, sometimes it doesn't effect
WAF at all.&nbsp; =)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Dean<br>
<br>
[1]&nbsp; these errors are never recoverable.&nbsp; As mentioned earlier, ANY
errors are bad, replace the disk immediately.<br>
[2]&nbsp; $25 was what they cost.&nbsp; Worth their weight in gold.<br>
[3]&nbsp; Always label the front of the caddy with the serial number of the
disk inside.&nbsp; You can then know which drive to pull.&nbsp; Otherwise if
you pull the wrong one, you may be in trouble.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

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