<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 1/03/2009, at 8:15 PM, Sam Hadley-Jones wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>(Repost, wrong subject line, sorry)<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Wrong.. Very very wrong.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To watch a DVD under Linux you are circumventing TPM as you aren't <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">using a licensed program, likewise if you watch Sky. If sky provided <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">software to do this under Windows/Linux/Mac etc then we could do it <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">legally, methods like ndscam etc aren't just borderline illegal, they <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are illegal under the new laws.<br></blockquote><br>The Italian government realised the monopoly that News Corp had in their<br>country by tying their subscription to their "licensed" set top box. Sky<br>was forced to release a CAM to allow competition from other set top box<br>vendors. This seems like just pure common sense but no one here in NZ<br>has picked up on it. Think of it like buying Shell petrol and being told<br>you can only put it in a Honda vehicle.<br><br>Furthermore, the method of decrypting a DVB signal (ie: what goes on<br>inside a CAM module) is not secret, it is standards based. The problem<br>has always been the obscurity or non-conformance of the NDS<br>implementation. If Sky were ever to seek a prosecution for someone not<br>using their set top box, they would be guilty of using this new<br>copyright Act in order to protect a monopoly.<br><br>David and Steve, the two of you act as if you're already getting threats<br>from Sky. I don't believe anyone has been "told off" yet for writing<br>instructions on soft cams for Sky NZ. The least we can do is share<br>information and help - as is the OSS way. The most that can happen, in<br>the first instance, is a letter from Sky summarised as "stop that".<br></div></blockquote><br></div><div>We made submissions against this bill as it effectively makes myPVR illegal for several features</div><div><br></div><div>1. TPM removal for DVD playback</div><div>2. Format shifting of Video because of mythtv's transcoding features.</div><div>3. Ability to retain TV material indefinately - the bill only allows time shifting, not archiving of TV.</div><div><br></div><div>We were informed that we were unlikely to be prosecuted for these Illegal acts, but they would not provide any guarantee's that prosecution might not happen at some point.</div><div><br></div><div>As to any threats from Sky, nothing formal, but I don't like playing against a company that can afford better lawyers than me,</div><div><br></div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Steven Ellis - Technical Director<br>OpenMedia Limited<br>email - <a href="mailto:steven@openmedia.co.nz">steven@openmedia.co.nz</a><br>website - <a href="http://www.openmedia.co.nz/">http://www.openmedia.co.nz</a><br></div></div></span> </div><br></body></html>