<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 19/10/2008, at 11:50 AM, Andrew Richards wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I am now running this same set-up on my 5200X2, haven't done a through <br>test but in simple terms I can play TV3.<br><br>Well, at least I can while nothing else is happening. Unfortunately <br>playback and commskip cannot co-exists without stuttering. What I am <br>trying to figure out is:<br><br>- How to select audio streams? I want to use AAC on TV3 all the time, <br>yet cannot see where to change this<br>- How to turn off Loopfilter. In Playback Profiles I leave it on CPU+ <br>and edit the second entry (if rez <=1280 720 & > 720 576 ->XvMC) to use <br>2 CPU's and uncheck the Loopfilter box. I also changed the Primary <br>Deinterlacer to One Feild. I assumed all this would lower CPU usage but <br>it doesn't.<br><br>Also I am confused about the Loopfilter box, my reading of the <br>instruction is that with it checked, Loopfilter is enabled. This is the <br>default setting, yet by default my machine can play 1080i video which I <br>wouldn't expect without skiploopfilter. So it seems to be this setting <br>isn't being properly respected. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The bitrate and CPU load required for TV3 appears to vary quite a bit depending on the content. For testing the best bet is to record a show that is marked as broadcast in HD so you have a reliable reproducible environment.</div><div><br></div><div>Based on the CPU loading i'm seeing on a 6000+ and similar data for a 5600+ I'm surprised you get the playback you are seeing. What MB and GPU do you have?</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><br>Steven Ellis wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 14/10/2008, at 10:35 AM, Steven Ellis wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">My X2 6000+ was delivered just an hour or so ago and now have working <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV3 - subject to a couple of minor niggles below.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 with Paul's most recent patched MythTV <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">release and loopfilter disabled in my playback profile. The <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">motherboard is an M2NPV-VM with 2G Ram and a Hauppauge HVR-900 USB tuner.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Previously I had an X2 3600+ in my test rig which really didn't cut it.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">X2 3600+<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2000000 1800000 1000000 <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">X2 6000+<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">3100000 3000000 2800000 2600000 2400000 2200000 2000000 1800000 1000000 <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ok so a lot more speeds to play with but for the purposes of testing <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I changed the governor to performance which locks the CPU at its <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">fastest speed.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">echo "performance" > <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So First a bunch of pre-recorded content<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Channel CPU CPU with Bob<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV3 83% 100+<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV2 50% 50%<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV One 50% 50%<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Live content<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Channel CPU CPU with Bob<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV3 83% 100+<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TV One 59% 59%<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">CTV8 21% 25%<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">TVNZ 6 21% 24%<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So it appears that the Bob de-interlacer adds quite a bit of <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">additional load, but thankfully most of that appears to be on the <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">second core. For TV3 above I get 88% on one core and 29% on the <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">second core with Bob. Without a de-interlacer almost all the load is <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">on one cpu.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">There doesn't appear to be much of a performance difference between <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">playing AC3 or AAC on TV 3 which is good news.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So the niggles<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">1. The X2 6000+ is a 89W CPU part so the core is hotter and the fan <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">faster than I'd prefer. There are rumours of some lower power parts, <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">but they might only work in AM2+ compatible boards.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2. Occasionally I get a picture in picture effect when I switch <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">between 720p and 1080i channels which I have two copies of the same <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">video feed on screen, one of which is in a small box in the top left <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hand of the screen.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">3. The AAC audio doesn't always lock on a channel change<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So I have something that works, but I wouldn't consider it customer <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ready.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I think I need to consider an Intel compatible alternative, but can't <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">find a board with integrated Composite/Component/SVideo as well as <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">DVI/HDMI in the Intel space.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Turned CPU scaling back on which is rather interesting<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For 720p channels it is happy to peg the cpu at 1.8 GHz, for 1080i it <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">goes all the way upto 3.1 GHz.. The SD channels go all the way down to <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1GHz which is the lowest speed setting.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Going to leave the box playing TV3 for a couple of hours and see how <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it copes with the load.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Steve<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Steven Ellis - Technical Director<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">OpenMedia Limited<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">email - steven@openmedia.co.nz <<a href="mailto:steven@openmedia.co.nz">mailto:steven@openmedia.co.nz</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">website - http://www.openmedia.co.nz <<a href="http://www.openmedia.co.nz/">http://www.openmedia.co.nz/</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mythtvnz mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz">mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz">http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Archives <a href="http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/">http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>mythtvnz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz">mythtvnz@lists.linuxnut.co.nz</a><br>http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz<br>Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Steven Ellis - Technical Director<br>OpenMedia Limited<br>email - <a href="mailto:steven@openmedia.co.nz">steven@openmedia.co.nz</a><br>website - <a href="http://www.openmedia.co.nz/">http://www.openmedia.co.nz</a><br></div></div></span> </div><br></body></html>