From hads at nice.net.nz  Sat Aug  3 22:42:07 2019
From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 09:42:07 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
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I've just looked at this and it seems that episode-num does in fact 
appear to be in there:

   795 > > <title>The Block NZ: Firehouse (encore)</title>
   796 > > <sub-title>The Block NZ: Firehouse</sub-title>
   797 > > <sub-title>New Episode</sub-title>
   798 > > <desc>The teams embark on their biggest space yet and push 
the boundaries on design. Plus it's the return of Block Stars! S8 
Ep29</desc>
   799 > > <date>2019</date>
   800 > > <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">7.28.0</episode-num>
   801 > > <video>
   802 > > > <quality>HDTV</quality>
   803 > > </video>
   804 > > <previously-shown />
   805 > > <subtitles type="teletext" />


On 30/07/19 8:47 PM, Hadley Rich wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Thanks for the heads up I thought episode-num was in there. I'll look 
> into this it soon as I can, I'm traveling right now so hopefully in the 
> next evening or two, otherwise the weekend.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hadley
> 
> On 30/07/19 5:32 PM, Adam Bennetts wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yep, the episode-num tag is missing from the new data. I didn't have
>> an older copy when I was looking at issues on the weekend and missed
>> that it was this causing the recording rule issues I noticed. I hunted
>> around and found an older copy of the XML and, as expected, it did
>> have an episode-num tag set properly.
>>
>> Easy fix for now is to turn off duplicate checking by setting the
>> duplicate check method to none for each rule impacted by this.
>>
>> Hopefully Hadley can find where that info went missing and add it back 
>> in.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 18:23, Stephen Worthington
>> <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:50:45 +1200, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hadley,
>>>> Thanks for your work with this.
>>>> It seems now though that my daily shows like the chase and TVNZ1 
>>>> news are
>>>> seen as duplicates so show as already recorded.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Fisher
>>>
>>> If the EPG source (TVNZ) is providing an ID for each episode, then
>>> MythTV will be using that to decide whether they are duplicates.
>>>
>>> I get my EPG from the broadcast MHEG5 data using mhegepgsnoop, and do
>>> postprocessing using xmltv-proc-nz, pretty much the same way the
>>> downloaded EPG is created.  Here is an example of The Chase on TVNZ1
>>> from my EPG:
>>>
>>>          <programme channel="tv1.freeviewnz.tv" start="20190806165500
>>> +1200" stop="20190806180000 +1200">
>>>                  <title>The Chase</title>
>>>                  <desc>With thousands in cash at stake, four strangers
>>> must go head to head with a ruthless quiz genius who’s determined to
>>> send them home with nothing!</desc>
>>>                  <episode-num system="dd_progid">10540106</episode-num>
>>>                  <subtitles type="teletext" />
>>>                  <rating system="Freeview">
>>>                          <value>G</value>
>>>                  </rating>
>>>          </programme>
>>>
>>> It has a "dd_progid" of 10540106.  In your downloaded EPG, are you
>>> getting that?  If you use the I key on a programme in the list of
>>> recordings or in the Guide, you should see the same number in the
>>> "Programme ID" field.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> mythtvnz at lists.ourshack.com
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>>
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From robert at fisher.net.nz  Sun Aug  4 20:40:01 2019
From: robert at fisher.net.nz (Robert Fisher)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:40:01 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <29055e17-ca59-272f-0d3d-67474a32ccb4@nice.net.nz>
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 <12ecb817-86c7-c5b7-b9cd-d0b620403b51@nice.net.nz>
 <CAHm_F1c4CKhC0KWsruentpVpoGsvixcqHKWP+HtEVPbT48_ngw@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm no expert but what I see (in mythweb) the options for duplicates 
only refer to subtitles and description so I assume they are no longer 
included in the data.

Rob

On 4/08/19 9:42 AM, Hadley Rich wrote:
> I've just looked at this and it seems that episode-num does in fact 
> appear to be in there:
>
>   795 > > <title>The Block NZ: Firehouse (encore)</title>
>   796 > > <sub-title>The Block NZ: Firehouse</sub-title>
>   797 > > <sub-title>New Episode</sub-title>
>   798 > > <desc>The teams embark on their biggest space yet and push 
> the boundaries on design. Plus it's the return of Block Stars! S8 
> Ep29</desc>
>   799 > > <date>2019</date>
>   800 > > <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">7.28.0</episode-num>
>   801 > > <video>
>   802 > > > <quality>HDTV</quality>
>   803 > > </video>
>   804 > > <previously-shown />
>   805 > > <subtitles type="teletext" />
>
>
> On 30/07/19 8:47 PM, Hadley Rich wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up I thought episode-num was in there. I'll look 
>> into this it soon as I can, I'm traveling right now so hopefully in 
>> the next evening or two, otherwise the weekend.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hadley
>>
>> On 30/07/19 5:32 PM, Adam Bennetts wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yep, the episode-num tag is missing from the new data. I didn't have
>>> an older copy when I was looking at issues on the weekend and missed
>>> that it was this causing the recording rule issues I noticed. I hunted
>>> around and found an older copy of the XML and, as expected, it did
>>> have an episode-num tag set properly.
>>>
>>> Easy fix for now is to turn off duplicate checking by setting the
>>> duplicate check method to none for each rule impacted by this.
>>>
>>> Hopefully Hadley can find where that info went missing and add it 
>>> back in.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 18:23, Stephen Worthington
>>> <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:50:45 +1200, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hadley,
>>>>> Thanks for your work with this.
>>>>> It seems now though that my daily shows like the chase and TVNZ1 
>>>>> news are
>>>>> seen as duplicates so show as already recorded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Fisher
>>>>
>>>> If the EPG source (TVNZ) is providing an ID for each episode, then
>>>> MythTV will be using that to decide whether they are duplicates.
>>>>
>>>> I get my EPG from the broadcast MHEG5 data using mhegepgsnoop, and do
>>>> postprocessing using xmltv-proc-nz, pretty much the same way the
>>>> downloaded EPG is created.  Here is an example of The Chase on TVNZ1
>>>> from my EPG:
>>>>
>>>>          <programme channel="tv1.freeviewnz.tv" start="20190806165500
>>>> +1200" stop="20190806180000 +1200">
>>>>                  <title>The Chase</title>
>>>>                  <desc>With thousands in cash at stake, four strangers
>>>> must go head to head with a ruthless quiz genius who’s determined to
>>>> send them home with nothing!</desc>
>>>>                  <episode-num 
>>>> system="dd_progid">10540106</episode-num>
>>>>                  <subtitles type="teletext" />
>>>>                  <rating system="Freeview">
>>>>                          <value>G</value>
>>>>                  </rating>
>>>>          </programme>
>>>>
>>>> It has a "dd_progid" of 10540106.  In your downloaded EPG, are you
>>>> getting that?  If you use the I key on a programme in the list of
>>>> recordings or in the Guide, you should see the same number in the
>>>> "Programme ID" field.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mythtvnz mailing list
>>>> mythtvnz at lists.ourshack.com
>>>> https://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/mythtvnz
>>>> Archives http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/
>>>
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>>>
>>
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From hads at nice.net.nz  Sun Aug  4 22:14:20 2019
From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 09:14:20 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <4fe77bbd-ac23-e49b-1ec6-17b10ebbe8c5@fisher.net.nz>
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On 5/8/19 7:40 am, Robert Fisher wrote:
> I'm no expert but what I see (in mythweb) the options for duplicates 
> only refer to subtitles and description so I assume they are no longer 
> included in the data.

Those are definitely in there.

I did just notice that sub-title could be added twice due to the new 
data processing script adding it as well as it being added by 
xmltv-proc-nz so I've fixed that in case it helps.

-- 
http://nice.net.nz


From robert at fisher.net.nz  Mon Aug  5 00:06:10 2019
From: robert at fisher.net.nz (Robert Fisher)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 11:06:10 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <2784cc13-b6c0-ef12-bde2-fd0e55546d1a@nice.net.nz>
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The problem (for me at least) is that the subtitles and description are 
the same for every showing of these daily shows so they are seen as 
duplicates.

The work-around (Duplicate Check Method to: None) works but can be a 
problem when, for example, recordings are repeated on the +1 channels 
and using a tuner unnecessarily.

Rob.

On 5/08/19 9:14 AM, Hadley Rich wrote:
> On 5/8/19 7:40 am, Robert Fisher wrote:
>> I'm no expert but what I see (in mythweb) the options for duplicates 
>> only refer to subtitles and description so I assume they are no 
>> longer included in the data.
>
> Those are definitely in there.
>
> I did just notice that sub-title could be added twice due to the new 
> data processing script adding it as well as it being added by 
> xmltv-proc-nz so I've fixed that in case it helps.
>


From hoiho.nz at gmail.com  Tue Aug  6 20:40:56 2019
From: hoiho.nz at gmail.com (Tony Sauri)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 07:40:56 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <29055e17-ca59-272f-0d3d-67474a32ccb4@nice.net.nz>
References: <6fbb1345-9335-360e-6abc-ffc5661f623c@nice.net.nz>
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Message-ID: <f2507a59-0fbf-d997-9561-1ce6b64cab19@gmail.com>

On 04/08/19 09:42, Hadley Rich wrote:
> I've just looked at this and it seems that episode-num does in fact
> appear to be in there:
> 
>   795 > > <title>The Block NZ: Firehouse (encore)</title>
>   796 > > <sub-title>The Block NZ: Firehouse</sub-title>
>   797 > > <sub-title>New Episode</sub-title>
>   798 > > <desc>The teams embark on their biggest space yet and push the
> boundaries on design. Plus it's the return of Block Stars! S8 Ep29</desc>
>   799 > > <date>2019</date>
>   800 > > <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">7.28.0</episode-num>
>   801 > > <video>
>   802 > > > <quality>HDTV</quality>
>   803 > > </video>
>   804 > > <previously-shown />
>   805 > > <subtitles type="teletext" />
> 
> 

Hads,

The problem occurs with programmes that do not have a meaningful
series/episode identification e.g. "1 News at 6pm".

I have looked back through my xmltv archive and here are the epg xml
records for  7 August 2018 and 7 August 2019 for "1 News at 6 pm".

epg_20180807_030125.xml


<title>1 News At 6pm</title>
                <desc>The nation's leading team of journalists brings
viewers the latest news and sport, plus the most comprehensive w
eather report.</desc>
                <episode-num system="dd_progid">10506097</episode-num>
                <subtitles type="teletext" />
        </programme>





epg_20190807_030107.xml


<title>1 News At 6pm</title>
                <sub-title>1 News At 6pm</sub-title>
                <desc>The nation's leading team of journalists brings
viewers the latest news and sport, plus the most comprehensive w
eather report.</desc>
                <date>2019</date>
                <subtitles type="teletext" />
        </programme>

Note that the last time the "episode-num" term appeared in the epg file
for "1 News at 6pm" was the file I downloaded at approx 3:00 am on 7/8/2019.

I wonder if you have somehow switched your "snoop" system from mheg to
Sky for the Freeview channels?

Regards

Tony Sauri




From hads at nice.net.nz  Tue Aug  6 22:52:29 2019
From: hads at nice.net.nz (Hadley Rich)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:52:29 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <f2507a59-0fbf-d997-9561-1ce6b64cab19@gmail.com>
References: <6fbb1345-9335-360e-6abc-ffc5661f623c@nice.net.nz>
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Message-ID: <982a74c8-2ee8-d5fc-eadb-44bba371ff77@nice.net.nz>

On 7/8/19 7:40 am, Tony Sauri wrote:
> The problem occurs with programmes that do not have a meaningful
> series/episode identification e.g. "1 News at 6pm".
> 
> I have looked back through my xmltv archive and here are the epg xml
> records for  7 August 2018 and 7 August 2019 for "1 News at 6 pm".

[...]

> Note that the last time the "episode-num" term appeared in the epg file
> for "1 News at 6pm" was the file I downloaded at approx 3:00 am on 7/8/2019.

Hey Tony,

Perfect, thanks for the info, that's allowed me to make a small change 
which will hopefully assist MythTV match those duplicates and not 
regress the data for anything else.

> I wonder if you have somehow switched your "snoop" system from mheg to
> Sky for the Freeview channels?

I've not had anything to do with Sky for years :D

The new source has more data and is easier to process, it's just a 
matter of my time to pull it all through and make that available in a 
suitable format.

Keep the suggestions coming people.

Cheers,

hads
-- 
http://nice.net.nz


From robert at fisher.net.nz  Tue Aug  6 23:11:51 2019
From: robert at fisher.net.nz (Robert Fisher)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 10:11:51 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <982a74c8-2ee8-d5fc-eadb-44bba371ff77@nice.net.nz>
References: <6fbb1345-9335-360e-6abc-ffc5661f623c@nice.net.nz>
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Love your work Hadley.

On 7/08/19 9:52 AM, Hadley Rich wrote:
> On 7/8/19 7:40 am, Tony Sauri wrote:
>> The problem occurs with programmes that do not have a meaningful
>> series/episode identification e.g. "1 News at 6pm".
>>
>> I have looked back through my xmltv archive and here are the epg xml
>> records for  7 August 2018 and 7 August 2019 for "1 News at 6 pm".
>
> [...]
>
>> Note that the last time the "episode-num" term appeared in the epg file
>> for "1 News at 6pm" was the file I downloaded at approx 3:00 am on 
>> 7/8/2019.
>
> Hey Tony,
>
> Perfect, thanks for the info, that's allowed me to make a small change 
> which will hopefully assist MythTV match those duplicates and not 
> regress the data for anything else.
>
>> I wonder if you have somehow switched your "snoop" system from mheg to
>> Sky for the Freeview channels?
>
> I've not had anything to do with Sky for years :D
>
> The new source has more data and is easier to process, it's just a 
> matter of my time to pull it all through and make that available in a 
> suitable format.
>
> Keep the suggestions coming people.
>
> Cheers,
>
> hads


From hoiho.nz at gmail.com  Wed Aug  7 12:19:16 2019
From: hoiho.nz at gmail.com (Tony Sauri)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 23:19:16 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
In-Reply-To: <982a74c8-2ee8-d5fc-eadb-44bba371ff77@nice.net.nz>
References: <6fbb1345-9335-360e-6abc-ffc5661f623c@nice.net.nz>
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On 07/08/19 09:52, Hadley Rich wrote:

> 
> that's allowed me to make a small change
> which will hopefully assist MythTV match those duplicates and not
> regress the data for anything else.
suitable format.
> 
> Keep the suggestions coming people.
> 

Hads,

I see you have already made the amendment to the file

However there is a possible small problem to be addressed.

This problem may be specific to how I record programmes.

I set the record at any time or any channel on all of my schedule rules.
I have also given any +1 channels a higher recording priority because
the recordings are smaller so use less disk space, I cant see any
difference between 1080i and 765p on my system, and the scheduler get
more flexibility to record programmes on choice that screens some
programmes multiple times a week.

It seems that the cases that bring the +1 channels into play still do
not record after your latest change.  This can be worked around by
deleting the existing recording schedule and then re-entering it again.

I have not got to the bottom of the problem although I think it is to do
with the records in the oldrecorded SQL table.

I will be having another look tomorrow in the hope of finding a better
solution.

Tony


From robert at fisher.net.nz  Tue Aug 27 08:12:57 2019
From: robert at fisher.net.nz (Robert Fisher)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:12:57 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] My upgrade to v30.0
Message-ID: <b46e6fbf-c8b1-c1a1-c521-db847de2c7db@fisher.net.nz>

I won't bore you with my long story.

The short story is after upgrading to v30 I took ages adding my 
HDHomerun tuners.

Firstly,

I now have a problem with my remote VNC session, running mythtv-setup 
results in a back screen (on my vnc client).

I had to connect a screen, keyboard and mouse to my usually headless 
backend.

Secondly, it turns out that I believe the method for adding HDHomerun 
capture cards has changed. I am sure that I used to.....

Select /HDHomeRun networked tuner then press Enter/

Now I had to/......./

*/Select /HDHomeRun networked tuner/, press the right arrow key, press 
enter with /use HDHomeRun//*

YMMV

Rob

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From robert at fisher.net.nz  Thu Aug 29 11:35:07 2019
From: robert at fisher.net.nz (Robert Fisher)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 22:35:07 +1200
Subject: [mythtvnz] epg.org.nz
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I have just realised that the "workaround" mentioned previously (setting
duplicate method to "none") is not the best.

If duplicate method is simply set to "subtitle" (not "subtitle and
description" as before) then it works fine.

Robert Fisher

On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, 11:06 AM Robert Fisher, <robert at fisher.net.nz> wrote:

> The problem (for me at least) is that the subtitles and description are
> the same for every showing of these daily shows so they are seen as
> duplicates.
>
> The work-around (Duplicate Check Method to: None) works but can be a
> problem when, for example, recordings are repeated on the +1 channels
> and using a tuner unnecessarily.
>
> Rob.
>
> On 5/08/19 9:14 AM, Hadley Rich wrote:
> > On 5/8/19 7:40 am, Robert Fisher wrote:
> >> I'm no expert but what I see (in mythweb) the options for duplicates
> >> only refer to subtitles and description so I assume they are no
> >> longer included in the data.
> >
> > Those are definitely in there.
> >
> > I did just notice that sub-title could be added twice due to the new
> > data processing script adding it as well as it being added by
> > xmltv-proc-nz so I've fixed that in case it helps.
> >
>
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