[GNUz] How does GLU/GNUz differ from CLUG?

[Nick Rout]

Rik Tindall wrote:
> Hi, thanks for writing Tim.
>
> Timothy Musson wrote:
> =20
>
>>    From RMS:
>>    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html
>>
>>    "The Linux sources themselves have an even more serious problem
>>     with non-free software: they actually contain some. Quite a few
>>     device drivers contain series of numbers that represent firmware
>>     programs to be installed in the device. These programs are not
>>     free software."
>>
>>    "Linux, the kernel, is often thought of as the flagship of free
>>     software, yet its current version is partially non-free. How did
>>     this happen? This problem, like the decision to use Bitkeeper,
>>     reflects the attitude of the original developer of Linux, a person
>>     who thinks that =E2=80=9Ctechnically better=E2=80=9D is more impor=
tant than
>>     freedom."
>
> Until reading this, I'd loosely believed Linux to be Free. Now that=20
> brand appears bogus to me for more than just its (un)ethical face.=20
> This helps explain the sub-optimal experience one gets as a 'Linux=20
> Community' memeber :-/
>
> We should start preparing a workshop on the hurd. / Something else?
>
>

Tim can you enlarge on what parts of the current kernel rely on or=20
contain non-free software ? RMS doesn't seem to on the page you pointed t=
o.