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<span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“</span>Other changes which I can't remember off the top of my head, having blanked out the wasted hours trying to find out why it does not work.”<br>
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I think one of the most frustrating things about the Core is M5 changed the pinout, which means some of the older modules don’t work with the newer core 2 cores.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You have however reminded me of my other applicable ESP device. That being the TTGo TBeam which I use for all my GPS/Lora based projects. Great for tracking the tractor, ute, or
 simply monitoring temperature in a remote location. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Daniel.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Chchrobotics <chchrobotics-bounces@lists.ourshack.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Irons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 20 May 2022 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christchurch Robotics <chchrobotics@lists.ourshack.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [chbot] ESP8266 WIFI Internet of Things beginner...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another ESP32 fan here, and ESP8266 anti-fan. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My preferred device is the 50x50 mm M5Stack range, in a nice housing with LCD and buttons, with a fairly wide range of expansion modules for GPS, LoRa, motor control, relays, etc. They also sell a prototype module with the internal connector
 and about 35x45 mm of donut-board for you to wire up your own things.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have also used a number of PCB-only modules (by Heltec and any number of other manufacturers), but far prefer the protection provided by the M5Stack.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Be aware, however, that over the years, M5Stack have changed the device internally, but provide no way to tell them apart, either electronically or by simple inspection.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Display changed from TFT to IPS with the same LCD controller. A nice improvement, except that the colours are inverted, and there is no way to tell, except by displaying a colour and inspecting to see what you have.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Different accelerometer device, with the same I2C address, and a different accelerometer device with a different I2C address, so you have to do some careful probing.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Flash has changed size.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Other changes which I can't remember off the top of my head, having blanked out the wasted hours trying to find out why it does not work.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Schematics are available for all hardware. However, the schematic for the main module is from 2017, and does not represent the 2018 version; later versions have more differences, but no new schematic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I like Micropython. Years of playing around with low-quality, special-purpose IDEs put me off the Arduino ecosystem, but it is probably better now, and probably has more libraries readily available than Micropython.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stephen Irons<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 10:14, Mark Beckett <<a href="mailto:m.beckett@amuri.net">m.beckett@amuri.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">I have both ESP8266 and also the ESP32 in various forms.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">These were useful as small standalone boards and I soldered headers at right angle while developing the project.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif"><a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2F32595394980.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5064bc5a883c4bf3cb1108da39fbe2e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637886051280677772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3iKEVjFZlFX%2F0Ni1dGkeaIKjWLWto5skIgJtIPBqwV0%3D&reserved=0">www.aliexpress.com/item/32595394980.html</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">Some ESP32 have the ability to use an external antenna.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif"><a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2F1005001438925793.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5064bc5a883c4bf3cb1108da39fbe2e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637886051280677772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zLT3gnjdM%2FktA276Q86LIuqiB7DaRdYM6Ym181CqpGY%3D&reserved=0">www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001438925793.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">There are plenty of ESP32 on Aliexpress just put ESP32 into the search, but I have purchased some of these.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif">The support in Arduino IDE is good including fauxmoesp which allows emulation to directly interface to Alexa</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fvintlabs%2FfauxmoESP&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5064bc5a883c4bf3cb1108da39fbe2e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637886051280834001%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MY1P%2BUEeXUDCD5mmKYVqN1chuW%2FKxrtW8Dbv0wav58w%3D&reserved=0">https://github.com/vintlabs/fauxmoESP</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19/05/22 23:52, Mike Barnes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I’m looking to have a play with IOT, very much with learner plates on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just watched a getting started with IOT
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUFCmTZUoZ1M&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5064bc5a883c4bf3cb1108da39fbe2e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637886051280834001%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CnSBykqYfPjkkIg4nDoIeTXR2cr%2BKD3RtSk%2BCnF4B8k%3D&reserved=0">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFCmTZUoZ1M</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">These seem attractive price wise at $5 each landed, but are they OK or should I get something else?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Arduino IOT seems very simple for us non coders
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