<div dir="ltr"><div>I've just got Spark.</div><div><br></div><div>I live in a normal residential house and they pretty much forced us onto fibre due to pulling copper services.</div><div><br></div><div>I can't say I miss copper. We hardly ever use the phone but it is there.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know what speed it is, but it serves all our business & entertainment needs and I tend to shovel quite a lot of data & code around.</div><div><br></div><div>As others have noted, speed of the last mile does not guarantee you won't get bottlenecked somewhere else.<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 9:23 AM Mark Atherton <<a href="mailto:markaren1@xtra.co.nz">markaren1@xtra.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks Charles.<br>
<br>
Who is your ISP, are you happy with them, roughly how expensive, what <br>
service speeds ?<br>
<br>
-Mark<br>
<br>
On 5/03/2021 8:32 AM, Charles Manning wrote:<br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> It is quite common for the installers to have to do something different. <br>
> The people setting up the job don't necessarily fully think through <br>
> where the conduit needs to go. My installation ended up being a bit <br>
> different, with some extra above-ground conduit I was not expecting, but <br>
> it was neat enough.<br>
> <br>
> Unlike with ADSL, you will not get a dial tone in a power outage. There <br>
> is no ring voltage over fibre because it is non-conductive. That has to <br>
> be recreated in-house by the fibre modem thingy (I assure you that is <br>
> the correct technical term :-)). If that is not getting power then no <br>
> dial tone. If you have a UPS then you should be good.<br>
> <br>
> -- Charles<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:35 PM Helmut Walle <<a href="mailto:helmut.walle@gmail.com" target="_blank">helmut.walle@gmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:helmut.walle@gmail.com" target="_blank">helmut.walle@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Mark,<br>
> <br>
> "low-cost, high performance [... decent] customer support" - pick<br>
> any two...<br>
> <br>
> I've got MyRepublic 200/100 fibre unlimited for $75 / month and<br>
> haven't seen any effectively<br>
> cheaper services here. The fibre installer installed as surveyed,<br>
> but it was only 10m or so<br>
> along the fence, then buried for about 1m from the fence to the<br>
> house - easy job. But they<br>
> should commit to doing it either at no extra cost, or tell you that<br>
> you will have to pay, before<br>
> the installer turns up. Best to confirm in advance, though...<br>
> <br>
> Trouble so far: I am getting VoiP telephony from a 3rd party.<br>
> Somehow it always lost audio one<br>
> way every 14-15 minutes, and depending on when the call started it<br>
> could happen anytime from<br>
> connecting to 14-15 minutes in, but when reconnecting immediately it<br>
> lasted for 14-15 minutes<br>
> until it next happened. I was suspecting that maybe some aspect of<br>
> CGNAT was upsetting the SIP<br>
> stuff, which admittedly is a bit of a hack... But MyRepublic were<br>
> initially finger-pointing at<br>
> 3rd party. I ran some experiments with 3rd party over other TCP/IP<br>
> networks, and none of the<br>
> alternatives showed that same problem at all. After some more<br>
> technical discussion with their<br>
> support team they upgraded the firmware on the Technicolor router<br>
> that they had supplied when I<br>
> got the fibre install, and that fixed it. So that was a bit of a<br>
> mission. Now why am I not<br>
> simply taking VoiP from the fibre ISP? Well, I call quite a few<br>
> people who still only have<br>
> copper phone lines in Europe, and the calling rates from MyRepublic<br>
> for my use are a rip-off...<br>
> <br>
> But the fibre performance really is the 200/100 - it really lets you<br>
> see pretty clearly where<br>
> the bottlenecks in trunk connections are, or if a server can't<br>
> handle the speed. For example, I<br>
> had to sync a 6 GB file to OneDrive for work today, and that<br>
> uploaded at slightly over the 100<br>
> Mbaud for most of the time and was done very quickly (to a MS server<br>
> physically close to us),<br>
> but when I was downloading content from my private OneDrive account<br>
> over the past several days,<br>
> I never got significantly over 20 Mbps per concurrent file download<br>
> (so several files at the<br>
> same time went at about 20 Mbps each), and that may well have been<br>
> from an overseas MS server.<br>
> <br>
> YMMV...<br>
> <br>
> And you already mentioned that you will be avoiding fixed wireless<br>
> at all costs...<br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> <br>
> Helmut.<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> +------------------------+<br>
> | Helmut Walle |<br>
> | <a href="mailto:Helmut.Walle@gmail.com" target="_blank">Helmut.Walle@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Helmut.Walle@gmail.com" target="_blank">Helmut.Walle@gmail.com</a>> |<br>
> | +64-21-446 137 |<br>
> +------------------------+<br>
> <br>
> On 04/03/2021 21:45, Mark Atherton wrote:<br>
> > Hi All,<br>
> ><br>
> > Probably time to drop copper :) We are very close to out local<br>
> kerb-side box, and even ADSL2+<br>
> > has served us very well so far.<br>
> ><br>
> > Any reconsiderations for a low-cost, high performance<br>
> Internet-fibre supplier ?<br>
> ><br>
> > Expect descent customer support, unlimited high rate (I have seen<br>
> 800Mb+ offered), probably<br>
> > bundled with existing landline). 30Mb fibre is no better than we<br>
> currently have, and isn't worth<br>
> > the trouble.<br>
> ><br>
> > Spark have been pestering me to move to wireless, that got me<br>
> very excited (in a bad way).<br>
> ><br>
> > Two issues:<br>
> ><br>
> > - We need a specific fibre run. I have heard horror stories where<br>
> contractors come out to do a<br>
> > survey, then the installer does the job the way he feels fit,<br>
> rather than the way the survey-guy<br>
> > agreed to.<br>
> ><br>
> > - Maintain dial-tone in event of power loss. Assume a small UPS<br>
> is available; but it does<br>
> > obviously required the kerb-side box remains powered (assuming it<br>
> does an active remux from the<br>
> > Central Office).<br>
> ><br>
> > Good experiences, and bad experiences please.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> ><br>
> > Mark<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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