<div dir="ltr">Hi Mark,<div><br></div><div>In fairness this was some time ago and I'm sure my technique was relatively poor (more heat, more heat!). If I remember correctly it was a DIP16 socket I'd inserted the wrong way around. Yes... I know it doesn't really matter but I was having a compulsive moment. </div><div><br></div><div>The topic of Chinese manufactures did come up on another mailing list I subscribe to recently. Bottom line appeared to be that if you do enough boards eventually you'll get something weird, missing copper or poorly plated holes or some other random failure. In general however it sounds like design failures outnumber manufacturing ones by several orders of magnitude. My one attempt to go straight to PCB reminded me of how handy the breadboards are...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Quentin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mark Atherton <<a href="mailto:markaren1@xtra.co.nz">markaren1@xtra.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-260754270968459445moz-cite-prefix">Hi Quentin,<br>
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In defense of Seeedstudio, I have had about six designs
manufactured by them and have never had a problems with pads
lifting during rework.<br>
<br>
What size pad has been troublesome ?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Mark<br>
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<div>Hi Micheal,</div>
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<div>Perennial questions - how long from order to delivery and
what's the quality like? I've generally stuck with OSHPark but
I'm thinking about diversifying to one of the Chinese
manufacturers as I've got a project which needs larger numbers
of boards. My one experience with Seed was that the board was
basically OK as long as you didn't have to ever unsolder
anything (the pads seemed to lift very easily).</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 8:03 PM Michael Field
<<a href="mailto:hamster@snap.net.nz" target="_blank">hamster@snap.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Today I
ordered my first PCB in a long while, and for a change ordered
from <a href="https://jlcpcb.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://jlcpcb.com/</a>
based on a recommendation from a co-worker.<br>
<br>
Ten 100mm x 100mm PCBs (actually 80 for my project because
they were panelized 4x2) for under USD$10, including standard
post.<br>
<br>
Yeap - about $0.12 each for a 19x45 board. Wow! How can peope
feed their family with those prices?<br>
<br>
I was also the first board.i've done in KiCAD, which I feel is
now bit better than Eagle. Happy to show people the ropes if
they have a spare Sunday afternoon.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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PS if anybody needs any I2S to line-level audio DACs with a
1x6 header, drop me a line.<br>
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