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<font face="Candara">You guys forgot to add the fees by the person who
has already been paid for shipping.<br>
<br>
I agree the GST component is NOT the issue, it's the other ticket
clippers that make it much more than just GST.<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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Yes there certainly are additional fees and they often do add up to
$120 or so alone, not counting the GST or duty portion. It depends on
the method of shipping which may account for the variation in people's
experiences.
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<div>From: Andrew Errington <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:erringtona@gmail.com"><erringtona@gmail.com></a> </div>
<div>Date: 9/29/17 15:57 (GMT+12:00) </div>
<div>To: Christchurch Robotics
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chchrobotics@lists.ourshack.com"><chchrobotics@lists.ourshack.com></a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [chbot] 3D printing </div>
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<div>Not paranoid, but as Volker says there are additional fees.
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><strong
style="color: rgb(0, 22, 81); font-family: Verdana,Tahoma,'DejaVu Sans',sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">*Entry
fees: </strong><br
style="color: rgb(0, 22, 81); font-family: Verdana,Tahoma,'DejaVu Sans',sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<span
style="color: rgb(0, 22, 81); font-family: Verdana,Tahoma,'DejaVu Sans',sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Once
the threshold of $60 of duty and/or GST payable is reached, then a
Customs import entry transaction fee (IETF) of NZ$29.26 (GST inclusive)
is payable. Please note that the $60 threshold does not apply to
tobacco and alcohol products. Entry fees are collected on these two
regardless of the amount. A Ministry for Primary Industries biosecurity
system entry levy (MPI Levy) of $19.98 (GST inclusive) is also
collected by Customs. The total fees equal NZ$49.24 (GST inclusive)</span><br>
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<div dir="auto">I'd be happy to pay GST, but the extra fees would
make it significantly more expensive. If I'm just over $60 then I pay
$110. It would be quite vexing.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Andrew</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 2:18 PM, "Charles Manning"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cdhmanning@gmail.com">cdhmanning@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div dir="ltr">Why are you so paranoid about GST?<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Andrew
Errington <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:erringtona@gmail.com" target="_blank">erringtona@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Mark,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">At $200 the Malyan M200 was on the edge of
impulse buy, but I was very worried about exceeding the GST collection
threshold. At $150 I jumped. The shipping was via DHL Express, and
that was the cheapest option available. I suppose if it was on
Banggood the shipping would be free. :)</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Monoprice, who re-sold the M200 under their own
name are now offering a delta printer at the $150 price point:</div>
<div dir="auto"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://hackaday.com/2017/08/21/monoprice-mini-delta-review/"
target="_blank">https://hackaday.com/2017/08/2<wbr>1/monoprice-mini-delta-review/</a></div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">We do indeed live in interesting times.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I'm totally going to print something really cool,
once I get some filament that is.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Andrew</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2017 11:04 PM, "Mark Beckett"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:m.beckett@amuri.net"
target="_blank">m.beckett@amuri.net</a>> wrote:<br
type="attribution">
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font face="Candara">I
had been holding off 3D printers ...<br>
My concern was the time taking to construct and perfect the desired
object was going to just add another distraction and more unfinished
projects.<br>
<br>
I then got an email from Erik Kettenburg who was responsible for the
Digispark and several other boards since.<br>
</font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_-3159565048557401520m_-1870138648671633042m_2940846284986159151moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robotic-industries/buildone-99-3d-printer-w-wifi-and-auto-bed-levelin"
target="_blank">https://www.kickstarter.com/pr<wbr>ojects/robotic-industries/buil<wbr>done-99-3d-printer-w-wifi-and-<wbr>auto-bed-levelin</a><br>
<font face="Candara"><br>
As a result I ordered the BuildOne Deluxe at $149 (less previous
contributor reward) which has the capability of 125 x 150 x125mm print
area.<br>
It will arrive when it gets here, I have complete faith in Erik and
have been more than satisfied with his early product, approach,
solutions and ongoing support, and I expect this will be the same.<br>
<i><br>
BTW shipping is only USD$25 to NZ.</i><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It is interesting to see how when you go from prototype to production,
you run into issues, and the writeup about leadscrews is worth reading.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robotic-industries/buildone-99-3d-printer-w-wifi-and-auto-bed-levelin/posts/1983436"
target="_blank">https://www.kickstarter.com/pr<wbr>ojects/robotic-industries/buil<wbr>done-99-3d-printer-w-wifi-and-<wbr>auto-bed-levelin/posts/1983436</a><br>
<br>
Hopefully in the new Year some time it should be available for demo.<br>
<br>
<br>
In the meantime I should really work out some uses for it .....<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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Carl Ranson wrote:
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You'll be surprised how many ideas you'll come up with. <br>
<br>
only recently, I've done:<br>
shopping bag clip for the car<br>
mounting brackets for a led strip light<br>
case for component tester<br>
charging dock for smart watch<br>
and several parts for the cocktail robot I'm finally getting around to.
<br>
<br>
and then there's <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://thingiverse.com" target="_blank">thingiverse.com</a>. <br>
I have a few bits up on there under the username Section8<br>
CR<br>
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On 27/09/2017 5:44 PM, Andrew Errington wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hello everyone,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">My 3D printer arrived today. Now I can
hang with
the cool kids.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">For the longest time I have coveted this:</div>
<div dir="auto"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://hobbyking.com/en_us/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=desc&order=price&q=Malyan+m200"
target="_blank">https://hobbyking.com/en_us/ca<wbr>talogsearch/result/index/?dir=<wbr>desc&order=price&q=Malyan+m200</a></div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It is the Malyan M200, aka the Monoprice MP
Select
Mini. It was announced to great excitement just over a year ago as the
first actually decent 3D printer for less than 200 US dollars:</div>
<div dir="auto"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://hackaday.com/2016/06/13/review-monoprice-mp-select-mini-3d-printer/"
target="_blank">https://hackaday.com/2016/06/1<wbr>3/review-monoprice-mp-select-m<wbr>ini-3d-printer/</a><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">So, for the price it's pretty good, all
things
considered. I was overseas when it was announced, and I didn't want to
try and get one delivered to me there, nor did I want to carry it back
to NZ when I eventually returned.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I kept my eye on it at hobbyking, and
another eye
on the exchange rate. As you know, GST is not collected on imports if
the GST amount is less than NZD 60, which equates to a shipment value
of NZD 400 including shipping. Unfortunately, if you exceed this
threshold you get some other fees tacked on too, approximately an
additional hundred dollars.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">The shipping cost from Hong Kong is about
USD 65,
so all up it's right on the edge of being slightly over the limit,
depending on the exchange rate.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Lately the NZD has been quite strong so it
was
quite likely I would not be over the limit, but it's marginal.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Last week I spotted it was on sale with
about USD
50 discount. I bought one on Friday and it arrived today. At least if
you're paying that much for shipping you actually get good service. I
bought the UK version to be sure it was capable of 240V operation, but
I think all models are the same, just with a different figure-8 mains
cable supplied.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Out of the box you get five metres of PLA
and a
microSD card with a sample model (and the manual) on it. They supply a
small Allen key for you to check the bed is level, after which you load
the filament and press print.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Now I have joined the horde of 3D printer
owners
with no real need for one... but it's cool.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Best wishes,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Andrew</div>
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