<div dir="ltr">We did not go ahead with the live video stream for the following reasons:<br><ul><li>no-one local was willing and able to set-up, baby-sit and pack-down the video equipment</li><li>no-one local was willing and able to do any editing or other post-production<br></li><li>the few remote viewers would not have watched a live stream, due to time-zone differences</li></ul><p>On the day of the event, there was a howling north-easter, with unoccupied garden seats blowing around. Unattended video equipment would have suffered. We did have audio reinforcement which worked well, although there was quite a bit of wind-noise despite wind-shield on the mics. It was not workth recording the audio.<br></p><p>I did play around with YouTube live streaming. There was no obvious minimum viewer requirement. It worked fine with OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) running on an Ubuntu 14.04 box. A mobile phone had adequate bandwidth to stream the video to the server, but not enough for a live monitor at the same time. I thought it strange, because one is mostly uplink, the other downlink. Watching the stream on a different computer with an independent connection to the internet worked fine, as expected.</p><p>I would certainly consider YouTube live streaming for a future event. It was easy for a suitably experienced person to set up, but not for Grandma.<br></p><p>Stephen Irons<br></p><p><br></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2015 at 11:56, Stephen Irons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen.irons@clear.net.nz" target="_blank">stephen.irons@clear.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It took 30 minutes to <br><ul><li>read the youtube help on live streaming</li><li>create a stream event on youtube<br></li><li>download and install OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) on my PC</li><li>configure OBS to capture video and audio and send it to youtube</li><li>watch the event using a different web browser (but on the same PC)</li></ul><p>Have to do some Real Work now, but it looks promising, provided that I can satisfy myself that:</p><ul><li>the event can be relatively private (invitation only, or at not advertised and unlisted)</li><li>the event can be completely free of adverts; I suspect this will be a pay-for privilege</li></ul><p>Other factors<br></p><ul><li>3 hours at 1.5 MBits/sec is 2 Gbytes. Allowing for 25% streaming overhead gives 2.5 GBytes. Have to get a data addon: 2 degrees charges 50c per MB for casual data usage (for a total of $1200!), but offer a 3 GB data addon for $50, or about 1.7c / MB<br></li><li>you standard USB data modem advertises 21 Mbits per sec, which should be enough to carry 2--2.5 Mbits per sec for the media stream</li></ul><p>OBS knows how to stream to other broadcasting services, so now I have a few other alternative to investigate:</p><ul><li>Twitch (apparently popular with gamers: rather than playing, you can watch others play)</li><li><a href="http://hitbox.tv" target="_blank">hitbox.tv</a></li><li><a href="http://beam.pro" target="_blank">beam.pro</a></li><li>DailyMotion</li><li>Livecoding.tv<br></li></ul><p>Thank you for the pointer to broadcast services: I thought there must be some available, but was obviously searching for the wrong thing.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p></p><p>Stephen<br></p><p><br></p></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 December 2015 at 23:30, Spencer Travers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spencer.travers@gmail.com" target="_blank">spencer.travers@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Have you looked at YouTube live streaming? I'm not sure about being able to restrict it to just your family viewing, but it would take care of a lot of the back end for you.<div><br></div><div>Spencer</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Stephen Irons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen.irons@clear.net.nz" target="_blank">stephen.irons@clear.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>We have a family celebration coming up in January, and want to be
able to provide a live audio and video stream from the event for people
who cannot be there.<br><br></div>I have the following available:<br><ul><li>Video camera with microphone input, microphone, and AV capture device that are compatible with V4L2</li><li>Laptop running Ubuntu 14.04 desktop<br></li><li>Mobile data modem</li><li>Low-spec VPS (2 core, 4G RAM, 1 Gbps network connection, 5 TB bandwidth per month) running Ubuntu 10.04 server<br></li></ul><p>The
plan would be for the laptop to capture the audio and video which will
send it to the server. Absent family and friends can then connect to the
server, preferably using a web browser, to watch the proceedings. There
will probably be 4 or 5 families watching from around the world.<br></p><p>Some rationale:<br></p><ul><li>I prefer the video camera, microphone and
capture device to a web cam because it should give more control over the
picture and sound quality.</li><li>I prefer the video camera, microphone and capture device to an IP cam because I don't want to spend the money.</li><li>I
don't want all of the guests connecting directly to the laptop, as all
their traffic goes via the mobile data modem -- I suspect costs will
mount up quickly, though I should estimate what it will cost.<br></li></ul><p>Now,
VLC can capture the video and stream it to another instance of VLC
using a few different protocols. I have not had success with the audio
yet, but it might just need to swear at it a bit more.</p><p>Motion and ZoneMinder might be appropriate, but ZoneMinder does not support audio.</p>Can
anyone offer any advice, before I spend days playing with things: what
software to use, what to avoid, what have I not thought of, will my
low-spec VPS be adequate to server 5 streams, any other thoughts?</div>
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