<p dir="ltr">Is this any use?<br>
<a href="http://hackaday.com/2015/11/18/water-saving-agricultural-system-wins-best-product/">http://hackaday.com/2015/11/18/water-saving-agricultural-system-wins-best-product/</a></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 21 Nov 2015 07:09, "Robin Gilks" <<a href="mailto:robin@gilks.org">robin@gilks.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> ... I discovered that rather than resistive I should be looking at high<br>
> frequency capacitive sensors.<br>
<br>
Looking into this some more and getting my calculator out, I have come up<br>
with the following figures (perhaps someone has a feel for how close these<br>
are likely to be!!) based on some of the ideas in the 'tindie' sensor I<br>
quoted.<br>
<br>
A pair of probes, 100mm long, 20mm apart will exhibit a capacitance of<br>
about 1pF in air (using 2 methods, I get .4pF and 2pF so in the same<br>
ballpark!!).<br>
<br>
The dielectric constant of water is 80 (compared to just over 1 for air)<br>
so saturated soil (50% water) would look like 40pF and dry soil about<br>
10pF.<br>
<br>
The STM32F103 has a MCU clock output that can run at half the core clock<br>
speed, i.e. 36MHz so I'll be looking to measure a change of impedance from<br>
110 to 440ohms<br>
<br>
Just playing with the idea of having the CPU driving one end of a length<br>
of CAT5 twisted pair with a differential signal and putting a bridge of<br>
low capacitance schotttky diodes between the probes and feeding the output<br>
back on another of the twisted pairs. That keeps all the underground parts<br>
passive and puts the CPU next to where I want the 2.4GHz module to return<br>
the results!!<br>
<br>
If I can cut/etch some PCB material then I'll knock something up for the<br>
next meeting. This is all becoming quite interesting!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Robin Gilks<br>
<br>
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