[chbot] CovidCard implementation - how expensive should it be to manufacture 1M of them?

Charles Manning cdhmanning at gmail.com
Sat Aug 29 08:07:03 BST 2020


Mike
I doubt there is any solid anything behind this. Too much feel-good based
"do something, anything".

It would be interesting to know how many infected people the QR code thing
has successfully tracked down. I hunch that number is extremely low.

I agree with your concerns re risk: Various areas of psychology would
suggest that people modify their behaviour according to risk profiles and
virtue signals.

For example there's that effect (its name escapes me now), where people
feel the food they are eating is more healthy if the menu has salads on it
- even though they're not eating the salads.

Similarly, those people are then more likely to treat themselves with
desert for having been healthy eaters.

So will this happen with a potential CVCard? I'm carrying my card so I'm
"doing my bit" and can then go do X which I would not do if I didn't have
my card.


On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:03 PM Mike Field <hamster at snap.net.nz> wrote:

> (this time to the list 8) )
>
> Is there any research that indicates that CovidCard, even with very high
> 80%+ adoption rate, 90%+ of contacts logged and so on, backed up with
> "Gold Standard" contract tracing and isolation, is sufficient to to
> reduce effective R value less than 1.0? In other words, if the tech is
> good and it is successfully deployed will it cause the pandemic to die
> out, and allow restrictions to be lifted things like tourism and  mass
> gathering to resume?
>
> My own feeling is that CovidCrd will not greatly reduce the overall
> risks, by adding weight to political discussions to drop restrictions,
> and enabling people to partake in high-risk behavior (cafe's, clubbing,
> dining out, church, travel, concerts...) because "technology has their
> back".
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. Why was this somewhat a patsy question?
>
> https://www.newsroom.co.nz/heres-what-we-need-in-a-digital-contact-tracing-solution
>
>
>
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