[chbot] 3d Design software.

Tue Dec 18 23:47:56 GMT 2012

Hello Chris

I am not sure why you think any critisism is implied.

I just want to make sure your comments are read by others in a context that 
makes them clearly understand the implications of educational licensing.

VEX clearly has ties with Autodsk that allow you to do this. Others do not.

We should not at all condone software piracy, even if it is in a "good cause". 
And, since you seem to find criticism impled where I did not intend... I am 
not at all suggesting that you are a software pirate.

I think the VEX looks like an interesting platform - particularly now that 
they are starting to provide more capable microcontrollers.

Regards

Charles

On Wednesday 19 December 2012 12:02:01 Chris Hamling wrote:
> Charles,
>
> Have a look at http://vexrobotics.com
>
> The VEX competition IS sponsored by Autodesk both internationally and in
> New Zealand, in fact they have been giving FREE formal training to teams in
> New Zealand for the past three years, so yes, we qualify.
>
> New Zealand have, in addition, won the Autodesk Inventor Design Challenge
> for the last three years in a row.
>
> We are looking for more mentors in Christchurch so why not join us and find
> out why the VEX competition is the biggest and fastest growing robotics
> competition in the world.
>
> I hope this answers your question as I am not sure why I am getting so much
> implied criticism.
>
> Chris Hamling
> National Manager - Kiwibots
> c.hamling at vexrobotics.co.nz
> http://vexrobotics.co.nz
> mob: 021 664 176
> tel: 09 488 2300 x 708
> skype: chris.ham
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz
> [mailto:chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz] On Behalf Of Charles
> Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:24 a.m.
> To: c.hamling at vexrobotics.co.nz; Christchurch Robotics
> Subject: Re: [chbot] 3d Design software.
>
> Chris
>
> Unless the VEX robotics competition is sponsored by Autodesk, or you have
> specific permission from Autodesk, then I would not assume that you
> qualify.
>
> The terms and conditions are very specific as to eligibility. To
> paraphrase: * A student or employee in a bona fide educational organisation
> that must fulfil various criteria.
> * A student/mentor/coach registered in an Autodesk sponsored competition.
>
> Some "oh, it's educational" hand-waving is not enough.
> Nor would "somehow being involved" be enough.
>
> Regards
>
> Charles
>
> On Wednesday 19 December 2012 09:53:36 Chris Hamling wrote:
> > Sorry, I forgot that everyone that I normally interact with is, in one
> > way or another, involved with the VEX robotics competition and, as
> > such, would qualify under the mentoring or competitor category. I
> > guess having access to free Autodesk software is a reward for passing on
>
> the passion.
>
> > Thanks for pointing that out.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz
> > [mailto:chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz] On Behalf Of
> > Charles Manning
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 9:30 a.m.
> > To: c.hamling at vexrobotics.co.nz; Christchurch Robotics
> > Subject: Re: [chbot] 3d Design software.
> >
> > There are most certainly limitations to the AutoCAD student edition...
> >
> > Most of us do not qualify for their free licensing conditions.
> > http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=terms_conditions and we do not
> > encourage piracy around here.
> >
> > On Wednesday 19 December 2012 08:58:26 Chris Hamling wrote:
> > > Why not use Autodesk Inventor. World leading 3D CAD software as the
> > > educational version is free with no limitations!
> > >
> > > https://students.autodesk.com/?nd=download_center
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012 Asia Pacific Media links
> > > Daily wrap videos are here
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/RealStudentsNZ?feature=watch.
> > > Photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/68502543@N06/ .
> > > Follow us on Face Book http://www.facebook.com/Kiwibots Final wrap
> > > video here Full results here
> > >
> > > Chris Hamling
> > > National Manager - Kiwibots
> > > c.hamling at vexrobotics.co.nz
> > > http://vexrobotics.co.nz
> > > mob: 021 664 176
> > > tel: 09 488 2300 x 708
> > > skype: chris.ham
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz
> > > [mailto:chchrobotics-bounces at lists.linuxnut.co.nz] On Behalf Of Carl
> >
> > Ranson
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:03 p.m.
> > > To: chbot
> > > Subject: [chbot] 3d Design software.
> > >
> > >
> > > For those of you that were interested in 3d design software...
> > >
> > > My current favourite is
> > > FreeCad....http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/ (the price fits
> > > my budget perfectly)
> > >
> > > Lots of video tutorials at
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=Video_t
> > utori
> >
> > >a ls
> > >
> > > But towards the really simple end of the spectrum is
> > > tinkercad....https://tinkercad.com/
> > > Its an online service only, but is really easy to use.
> > >
> > > And for 3d models in general, try thingiverse.com.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Carl.
> > >
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